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by Ray Bull, Tim Valentine, Dr Tom Williamson


  Conclusion

  The vulnerability of the criminal justice paradigm to executive action and

  legislative change leads to a pessimistic conclusion. It is perhaps appropriate

  to end by referring to the cases of the two Australians who were held at

  Guantanamo Bay, Mamdouh Habib and David Hicks (Sales, 2007 ). Habib

  was released without charge, apparently because US authorities did not

  welcome the prospect of more public scrutiny of what happened to him in

  Egyptian jails during a lengthy stop - off on his rendered passage to Cuba. At

  the time of writing, Hicks is the only sometime detainee of Guantanamo Bay

  who has been ‘ convicted ’ . In a mere fa ç ade of legality, confessions produced

  by years of interrogation led to a plea of guilty to crimes which did not exist,

  in a court which was not a court, in a place which the US government had

  tried to isolate from international law. This guilty plea meant that neither his

  military ‘ commission ’ nor, a fortiori , a real court examined the means by which

  the confessions underlying it were obtained. At the time of writing, Hicks has

  just been released from the Australian jail where he spent the last few months

  of detention, apparently broken, not by torture, but by prolonged detention,

  often in isolation. Yet even in this case, the strength of legal principle became

  evident in the unlikely fi gure of Hicks ’ s US army lawyer, Major Michael Mori,

  who, along with a team of other lawyers (Stafford Smith,

  2007 ), fought

  for his client skilfully and at very considerable personal cost. Both Habib and

  Hicks are now subject to indefi nite security surveillance and administrative

  control orders.

  From Criminal Justice to Control Process

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  The legal and political issues discussed in this chapter may seem distant from

  the professional and technical concerns of investigative interviewing. This

  would not have been Tom Williamson ’ s approach. What distinguished Tom ’ s

  work was a commitment to investigative interviewing not just as a professional

  technique, but as an expression of adherence to human rights, legality, and

  justice (Williamson, 2006 ). In working through the implications for interroga-

  tion of the changing relationship between criminal justice and control process,

  Tom Williamson will continue to provide us with a fi ne example.

  Vale Tom.

  Acknowledgements

  I am grateful to my colleagues Professor Jill Hunter and Associate Professor

  Andrew Lynch for their advice and assistance. My account of Thomas ’ s case

  draws heavily on Dr Lynch ’ s published research.

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  Statutes

  Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984

  Chapter Seven

  Major Crime (Investigative Powers) Act

  2004: The Chief Examiner and

  Coercive Powers

  Damien B. Maguire

  Chief Examiner for the State of Victoria, Australia

  Introduction

  The topic of this
chapter is the Major Crime (Investigative Powers) Act 2004 ,

  the Chief Examiner and Coercive Powers. In the course of the chapter I shall

  outline the circumstances in which this legislation came to be implemented,

  explain how the legislation operates and share my views as to what part the

  legal profession should play in representing witnesses in the ‘ coercive powers ’

  examination hearing process.

  The h istory of the c reation of the s tatutory

  o ffi ce of C hief E xaminer

  Appointment

  On 25 January 2005 after some 30 years

  ’ practising as a barrister at the

  Victorian Bar in Australia I was appointed as the fi rst Chief Examiner for the

  State of Victoria. The position of Chief Examiner is a creature of statute and

  is created by the Major Crime (Investigative Powers) Act 2004 .

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  The c ircumstances in w hich the s tatutory

  o ffi ce c ame into being

  The offi ce of Chief Examiner was created as part of a number of measures

  taken by the Victorian Government to deal with what had become known as

  the ‘ gangland wars ’ and serious issues as to police corruption.

  The g angland w ars

  In the period between 1998 and 2004 21 killings were attributed to gangland

  wars, which were fought partly on the payback principle but mainly for control

  of the lucrative drug trade, particularly the trade in amphetamine, cocaine and

  ecstasy.

  Some of the killings involved high - profi le criminals. Without detailing the

  circumstances of each of these killings, reference to some will inform you as

  to why these events raised a great deal of public concern.

  On 21 June 2003, Jason Moran was in a van with another man and a group

  of children at a football ground where a football clinic was taking place. Many

  other parents were present with their children. As Moran sat in the van the

  murderer appeared and fi red into the vehicle killing Moran and his companion.

  Jason Moran with his father and brother Mark had played a major role in

  Melbourne ’ s drug trade. His brother had also been murdered approximately

  three years earlier.

  Moran made the mistake of thinking he was safe in his vehicle with his

  children amongst other parents and children.

  On 25 October 2003 another man involved in the drug trade, Michael

  Marshal, was shot in front of his wife and fi ve - year - old son outside his home.

  On 23 March 2004 Andrew ‘ Benji ’ Veniamin was shot dead in the toilet

  at a pizza restaurant by a man called Mick Gatto, who was said to have been

  part of a group of men called the Carlton crew. Members of this group had

  been allegedly murdered by Veniamin. Gatto was tried on a charge of murder-

  ing Veniamin and was acquitted.

  On 31 March 2004, the day after Veniamin ’ s funeral, Lewis Moran (Mark

  and Jason ’ s father) was shot dead in the late afternoon in a well - known inner

  suburban club with other persons present, and with trams, motor vehicles and

  pedestrians passing by.

  It can be seen from the examples I have just given that even the normal

  conventions of the underworld were being fl outed.

  The G overnment and the p olice r esponse

  In the period particularly after the murder of Jason Moran there were strong

  calls from the community for the establishment of a Royal Commission and/

  or the creation of a Crime Commission to seek to deal with the horrifi c number

  of murders which were taking place and with police corruption regarding drugs

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  which was being exposed at or about the same time. There was also the issue

  of whether there was a link between the two.

  The Victorian Government was consistently opposed to taking either of

  these courses. In the meantime Victoria Police were seeking to deal with these

  problems by establishing Special Task Forces to deal with the issue of police

  corruption and later with the gangland killings.

  In the course of these investigations police made use of the coercive powers

  of the Australian Crime Commission, a federal body with limited powers to

  deal with state offences. Examination hearings were conducted under a drug -

  related Reference.

  In the context of the use of the Australian Crime Commission ’ s powers,

  the Chief Commissioner of Victoria Police asked the Government to give

  police the same powers. Although the Government was never going to give

  these powers directly to police, the Government did agree that police should

  have access to such powers, but with substantial constraints being imposed.

  In May and June 2004 the Victorian premier announced a major crime

  legislative package, which included a commitment to provide new coercive

  questioning powers to enable police to investigate organized crime more

  effectively. The Government said that these powers were designed to assist

  police in breaking the ‘ code of silence ’ that often thwarted investigations into

  organized crime. At or about the same time another statutory offi ce of Director

  Police Integrity was created to deal with police corruption.

  The organized crime legislation was ultimately implemented in November

  2004 and became operative from 1 July 2005. The Act which created the posi-

  tion of Chief Examiner and which sets out the procedures whereby coercive

  powers are utilized is the Major Crime (Investigative Powers) Act 2004 .

  The M ajor C rime ( I nvestigative P owers) A ct 2004:

  h ow it o perates

  Application by p olice for a c oercive p owers o rder

  The Victoria Police are empowered by this legislation to apply to a single judge

  of the Supreme Court of Victoria for the issuing of what is known as a coercive

  powers order. Obtaining such an order is the start of a process which leads to

  police obtaining indirect access to a witness.

  An application to the Supreme Court made by a member of Victoria Police

  must be sanctioned by the approval of the Chief Commissioner of Police or

  his or her delegate. In order for the application to succeed the applicant police

  offi cer must convince the Supreme Court Justice that he or she suspects on

  reasonable grounds that an organized crime offence has been, is being or is

  likely to be committed. The application must relate to an existing investigation.

  It cannot be made to support a search for intelligence. It is quite different

  from how the Australian Crime Commission operates, which is on the basis

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  of what is known as a Reference which is generally not concerned with a par-

  ticular investigation.

  That term ‘ organised crime offence ’ is defi ned in the legislation as follows:

  ‘ Organised crime offence ’ means an indictable offence against the law of Victoria,

  irrespective of when the offence is suspected to have been committed, that is

  punishable by
level 5 imprisonment (10 years maximum) or more and that –

  (a) involves two or more offenders; and

  (b) involves substantial planning and organisation; and

  (c) forms part of systemic and continuing criminal activity; and

  (d) has a purpose of obtaining profi t, gain, power or infl uence.

  There are a number of other matters which are required to be satisfi ed

  before a coercive powers order will be made, including the public interest;

  however, I shall leave these to another day.

  If the Supreme Court agrees to make an order it will relate to the particu-

  lar organized crime offence and may be allowed to operate for a period

  of up to 12 months. Conditions as to the use of the order may also be

  imposed.

  The i nvolvement of the C hief E xaminer

  When a coercive powers order is made, police may then apply to the Supreme

  Court or to the Chief Examiner for the issuing of the summons or the making

  of a custody order in relation to a person who is in custody. Usually these

  applications are made to the Chief Examiner. Without going into the fi ne

  detail, the Chief Examiner will issue a summons or make a custody order if

  certain legislative criteria are satisfi ed. Normally, such applications will involve

  witnesses chosen by police investigators. However, the Chief Examiner does

  have independent discretion in this regard.

  After service of the summons or the execution of a custody order the exami-

  nation hearing will, in due course, take place.

  The legislation requires that the Chief Examiner will generally conduct the

  examination by personally interrogating the witness. However, if circum-

  stances require, the examination may be conducted by the Chief Examiner

  using counsel assisting or some other appropriate person, perhaps with some

  specialized knowledge, to examine the witness.

  Investigating police are involved in the examination by instructing the Chief

  Examiner in conference and providing materials which are relevant to the

  examination. This assistance will continue during the examination hearing.

  The e xamination h earing

  The examination hearing is inquisitorial and must be held in private, with the

  Chief Examiner having the power to give directions as to who may be present

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  during an examination or part of an examination and as to the prohibition on

  publication or communication of evidence given during the examination.

 

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