Jefferson: Very good. So you referred before to a technology similar to a TV where you could see humans or change channels and see another planet. Can you give more details about that technology?
Ishuwa: It allows us to have visualizations that many of us can share at the same time in a similar way, in a sense, we see one image, one screen, and we all are seeing the same screen. We will all experience and translate that image in different ways and then we can explore with other races at the same time what is taking place on that screen, what is being presented, what the images are about.
Several races simultaneously can see the same thing, seemingly see the same thing, and in that way have a shared experience which we all then can if we want, and any number of us will at various times, choose to talk about what it is or simply share what we felt or what we enjoyed about that presentation on the screen. It's not too different from what you would do there in your world. The technology is different, yes. How it is conveyed and the type of screen and materials are different too.
In our society, we do have the capacity to send similar imageries to each other telepathically into our mind’s eye, in that sense, and have a similar experience as what you have when you are viewing a television screen or a theater screen in your world. We can share great clarity of image, and light, and colors, and spoken words through images in that way, moving images through the mind's eye, telepathically for a group of us to connect with. But when there are many people from different societies, different races, it can be helpful to have one image, one screen, from which we can all simply look at, for there are many races who have quite different mental, mind, heart patterning frequencies. So it isn’t always as easy for them to see the same images within their mind's eye, so to speak, in the same way that we in our world's race are able to see the same image together. Other races don’t quite see it the way we do when we work from a mind’s eye viewing perspective. Having the television screen makes it easier, in a sense, for the various extraterrestrials participating to have a similar experience, see a similar image.
Jefferson: And who controls what image is going to be going on in a particular channel?
Ishuwa: We all have an idea of what it's to be about, the topic or the central theme, and then there are those who specialize, just as in your world, on bringing forth the images. They have, in a sense, a device to capture the images that are then focused in such a way so as to bring them onto the screen, present them on the screen. It's kind of like how a motion picture camera works in your world.
Jefferson: I see. Who decides what topic is going to be broadcast on a particular day? Is that the elder council?
Ishuwa: It is something that comes about rather organically. There is no director of programs as you may have on your television networks there. It is something that we all tune in to, those who have an interest suddenly for some reason to watch something. We then begin to tune in to what it is we sense we would like, what feels like a topic we'd like to watch with others. As our ideas become more focused, it becomes more apparent what the topic will be about and also what will be the most pleasurable thing to watch as a group. So by having the largest number of people suddenly want to view a particular topic, that then becomes the topic that is conveyed on the screen. It is as though it is the people’s choice, so to speak.
Jefferson: When you put on a channel that is showing Earth, do you see humans walking around, or driving in cars, or flying in planes?
Ishuwa: We generally don’t have any channels like that. That is something that can be done in a rather focused way by a few individuals. The idea is to learn without interfering in any way with your conscious patternings and goings on in your world. So we don’t have a 24-hour cable channel, so to speak, that is always showing "channel Earth."
Jefferson: Okay! I understand. I would like to ask you to tell us what is the most beautiful, conducive, interesting place that you have visited and you can’t say they are all beautiful and they are all unique. I mean, share what you think is a place that is beautiful, conducive, interesting, the best ever to you!
Ishuwa: Are you saying I can or cannot say they are all beautiful?
Jefferson: No, I mean you have to pick one, come-on! Describe one that you think would be interesting to talk about.
Ishuwa: But then if I have to do that and I "put that out," then I begin "getting back" more experiences in which I have to do that!
Jefferson: (Playful laughter). Come-on! So...okay —
Ishuwa: And if I do that, then I begin getting back more experiences that some things might be more beautiful than other things, and I know that isn't how nature actually exists.
Jefferson: Yeah, okay. Let me change the question then. What place do you think we Earth humans would find beautiful if we were to visit in our present state of consciousness?
Ishuwa: Very well.
Jefferson: Thank you.
Ishuwa: You would enjoy a planet in the Helios realm near Sirius. It has a very large form of rain forest in which every being there will come up and greet you with a soft little touch, a little soft electrical vibration, and there is then in that way a welcome feeling that you have in that place. Very colorful! The trees are very orange with some purples, yellows, and greens, and blues. Green is not the predominant color of the foliage of the trees in this rain forest. The raindrops are multi-lingual in the songs that they sing when the rain dances upon the ground in the rain forest. So we sense that would be a very beautiful place in your perception of things. You can invite more of that idea to come through in a dream if you would like.
Jefferson: Where is that again, Sirius?
Ishuwa: Helios, near Sirius. It's a very small planet relative to your Earth. It's rather distant from its Sun, but it is very capable of supporting life as you know it. For the most part, you could be comfortable there for a short visit.
As far as what would be most beautiful from the point of view of others on your world, again, it would be unique for each. For each one of you really can find worlds in any given moment that could be more beautiful then the next, given how you do like to have comparisons, and so there are many levels of beauty and places, in that sense, planets for each of you that you could begin to walk upon. Certainly while in this time of your Earth period, it would generally only occur in your imagination or your day dreaming, so to speak, which as we have said before is every bit as valuable as the world you are presently in physically.
There are some of you that have actually visited these places and perhaps don’t remember. Some of you do remember. On your Earth, there are some places you specifically would enjoy. Venturing to some locations in your South America and your Andie mountains. While you perhaps would enjoy the idea of Machu Picchu, there are some communities outside of that at a lower elevation that are more easily accessible but rarely accessed by those from your society. You would find them to be very beautiful as well. You could be guided there if you at some point wanted to journey off into that region.
Jefferson: The planet Helios that you said is near Sirius, what density does this planet exist?
Ishuwa: Approximately a fourth, moving to a fifth consciousness.
Jefferson: Are the beings there humanoid or are they more like light bodies?
Ishuwa: There aren’t, in that sense, humanoids actually inhabiting this place. No indigenous people nor indigenous life forms are there in its present cycle of physical life-form expression, but there are many other life forms that will communicate with you if you are there. You would have the ability to have communication in a way that you could have a dialogue of a certain type. It would be like you were communicating with someone here. It wouldn’t be like communicating with cats in the way you do where you live, you don’t really talk and carry on a two-way conversation with your cats there, generally speaking. There are life forms on Helios with which you could have what would be like a two-way conversation, but you wouldn’t be doing it with the spoken word.
Jefferson: Right.
Ishuwa: As I said, there are some life forms there that would, in fact all of them, if they were to touch you it would be a very soft electrical vibration.
Jefferson: Are they the same size as humans?
Ishuwa: There are some, but most of these are going to be much smaller, maybe a foot or two in height. But again, there are trees there and some of those can be hundreds of feet in height. Some are only five to six feet in height, and they are fully grown trees. There is quite a variety of non-indigenous plant life on this planet.
Jefferson: Alright. So Ishuwa, do you have any parting thoughts? Anything you want to share with us as we close this beautiful chapter?
Ishuwa: We are, as we have said before, grateful for the interaction. We acknowledge the time, and the effort, and the riches of your beingness that you share in engaging with our society in this way. We thank you for that! We know there is more that you have to share with others. In the days of your experience, and expressions, and your steps and pathways on Earth, you will become more fulfilled in taking those steps and in sharing in those ways that are presently aware for you and many will be new for you. So allow for the growth to come effortlessly in its own way, in its own time. You will not miss out on any of these experiences. The more you allow yourself to know this, the more you will be in those experiences simply because you are following your heart. You cannot miss anything that comes from the heart as long as you stay tuned in to your heart.
Jefferson: Very good. Wow! Thank you very much!
Ishuwa: We thank you! And you are welcome! We look forward to interacting with you again in this way, and we say good day and great joy with you, and for you, and of you, because of you!
Jefferson: Thank you very much! Bye Ishuwa.
Ishuwa: Yah oohm!
Jefferson: Yes! Indeed!
Ishuwa: Tudo bem!
Jefferson: Where did he learn to speak Portuguese?!
Chapter 12
Making Contact with Your Inner Aliens
"As more people are more at peace with themself and have no more of these alien ideas existing within them, then when we are present, they will feel more comfortable with our presence before them." – Ishuwa
November 5th, 2009
Ishuwa: Always with you in these blending moments together is a wonderful experience and expression of all that we are in these ways that we are choosing to create in this moment of our time together! How are you?
Jefferson: Lovely Ishuwa! It's lovely to speak to you again!
Ishuwa: And for us as well!
Jefferson: How would you like to move forward today?
Ishuwa: This is a channeling between you, Jefferson, and the channel, Shaun. Here you are November 5th of your time, 2009.
Jefferson: Yes!
Ishuwa: The clock time is approximately 1:34 in the afternoon in the Hawaiian time zone. The seconds are ticking by, bit by bit, second by second, as you are creating that idea of seconds and time. It is with great joy that we have this opportunity to interact with you in this way of your timing today!
Jefferson: Sure! And for me too!
Ishuwa: Most wonderful to be here is this way!
Jefferson: Indeed! So, Ishuwa, how would you like to move forward today?
Ishuwa: In whatever way you would like to begin. With suggestions, or perhaps sharings, or questions. As you wish.
Jefferson: In regards to "contact," do you guys intend to appear again as you did in Phoenix, Arizona, in 1997 and 2007?
Ishuwa: We will, yes.
Jefferson: Can you give me the exact day, time, hour, and the meal that's going to be served?
Ishuwa: We haven't decided on the meal yet. It's a tossup between a tossed green salad and a fruit salad.
Jefferson: All right.
Ishuwa: Which do you prefer?
Jefferson: Whatever is done with love goes well.
Ishuwa: We will have love in either dish then. It will be present.
Jefferson: Okay, fantastic!
Ishuwa: In terms of actual dates, generally we don't work in that way. We may set up a time when we are planning to have such a revealing of our presence, and then circumstances might present themselves in which we will then adjust that time and move it to be earlier than the initial time or after the initial scheduled time.
Jefferson: Okay.
Ishuwa: And there are many reasons that can occur.
Jefferson: Sure.
Ishuwa: In your world, you might have a time set up to meet some-one somewhere, but then it doesn't work out that way for various reasons. It might occur a little bit earlier, or a little bit later, or not at all.
For us, it's easier not to state a specific meeting time because often in your world, if we don't show up, many people will lose faith in the whole idea of our existence, even though when they set up a meeting with a friend and that friend doesn't show up at the appointed day and time, they don't then lose faith in that person's existence.
Jefferson: (Laughter).
Ishuwa: We understand they don't lose faith in that person in that way because they have had other experiences where meetings are missed and don't take place and they simply re-schedule. Your world hasn't had the experience of re-scheduling with us in that way. It hasn't even had the experience of meeting us physically.
Jefferson: Yeah.
Ishuwa: In time it will occur if your world keeps moving forward along the collective path that it is choosing to take at this timing.
Jefferson: Sure. Can you give a window of years?
Ishuwa: Within the next two months there will be another sighting. The location will generally be in a southern European region of a rather small community.
Jefferson: Oh, nice, all right! So when the actual first contact in public occurs in ten years, or twenty years, or whenever it occurs, how do you feel it's going to happen? Will you buy some airtime on our TV?
Ishuwa: Some would consider it to be just a program or a show from one of the television networks, while other people could become frightened by it and then you could have, in that sense, an experience like what occurred due to a radio program that was broadcast some years ago in your past.
Jefferson: Oh, I see. So, if that's not the way then how do you see it happening?
Ishuwa: One idea is that there will be an understanding that it's going to occur. People will begin to understand that it's going to occur. And then, especially in the regions where it does then occur, there will be arrangements made for people to be present at that interaction and for it to take place in a very precise way, in a format that will be available for several in your public to observe.
There will be individuals from a wide range of backgrounds in your society present. After the public contact meeting takes place, there will be a process in which those who were present will then be able to discuss what they experienced in the meeting, how it occurred, what took place. They will be able to discuss this in such a fashion that the information will then be able to be shared with more people who were not able to be physically present. It will be done in a way so that those people who hear about the contact second-hand will be more willing to accept it. The contact event will seem to be more verified and more confirmed for them as the information begins to come forth. We can't appear at one location and have everybody on the planet see us first-hand.
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