The secret is in the text at the start of the story of Solon and what the Egyptians told him, “As for those genealogies of yours which you just now recounted to us, Solon, they are no better than the tales of children. In the first place you remember a single deluge only, but there were many previous ones; in the next place, you do not know that there formerly dwelt in your land the fairest and noblest race of men which ever lived, and that you and your whole city are descended from a small seed or remnant of them which survived. And this was unknown to you, because, for many generations, the survivors of that destruction died, leaving no written word.”
What the priest were trying to tell Solon, is that the Deluge Greek history remembers was the one that wiped out Athens once, and that many such deluges happened in the past - so we can see the confusion with dates of these floods. Again we see this two-fold story unveiling with Atlanteans referred to as “in your land dwelt the fairest and noblest race of men which ever lived” does this give us a description of an Atlantean?
We know from DNA the Scandinavians are decadence from blonde and blue eyed ancestors with a pale complexions – this description seems to me to confirm that fact, as if we use the world fair, we generally are referring to their hair and features. Moreover, it also shows that two stories are being recited here as within the same book the Atlanteans are also called “various tribes of Barbarians”, “a mighty power unprovoked” and “invaders”.
Moreover, does the line “And this was unknown to you, because, for many generations, the survivors of that destruction died, leaving no written word.” Suggest this race had no written language? It is well known that the Nordic races relied on verbal story telling for their histories, I believe this confirms a ‘Nordic’ Atlantean. But, the most explosive revelation not picked up by most scholars is the line “and that you and your whole city are descended from a small seed or remnant of them which survived.” The priests are telling Solon that the Greeks are ‘seeds’ of their great nation are they implying that they were the first people to colonise Athens and leave their philosophy and beliefs?
The writing then goes on to say “Solon marvelled at his words, and earnestly requested the priests to inform him exactly and in order about these former citizens” and it continues to reinforce this suggestion by saying “You are welcome to hear about them, Solon, said the priest, both for your own sake and for that of your city, and above all, for the sake of the goddess who is the common patron and parent and educator of both our cities.” So we now, not only have the Atlanteans ‘seeding’ the Greek population but also the Egyptian population a thousand years later. The only question left to answer is when, and that is revealed just a paragraph later when he writes “And the duration of our civilisation as set down in our sacred writings is 8000 years. As touching your citizens of nine thousand years ago”. So we have our answer, probably the most astonishing revelation in the history of world civilisation, the Atlanteans (“ from a distant point in the Atlantic ocean was insolvently advancing to attack the whole of Europe and Asia, to boot” in boats from a land beyond the “pillars of Hercules”) seeded and establish the kingdoms of Greece nine thousand years ago and Egypt a thousand years later.
The interesting aspect of this two-fold story is that some scholars get confused and believe that Atlantis sunk 9000 years ago, when clearly Plato was talking about the colonisation of Greece and Egypt, and then goes on to talk about the Atlanteans coming to conquer and enslave the Greeks and Egyptians, which is clearly a later date. When he does talk about Atlantis sinking, no dates are offered. This is when the second story totally conflicts with the first, initially they were “the fairest and noblest race of men which ever lived” but within a paragraph or two become “For these histories tell of a mighty power which unprovoked made an expedition against the whole of Europe and Asia, and to which your city put an end. This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean, for in those days the Atlantic was navigable; and there was an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Heracles...
This vast power, gathered into one, endeavoured to subdue at a blow our country and yours and the whole of the region within the straits; and then, Solon, your country shone forth, in the excellence of her virtue and strength, among all mankind. She was pre-eminent in courage and military skill, and was the leader of the Hellenes. And when the rest fell off from her, being compelled to stand alone, after having undergone the very extremity of danger, she defeated and triumphed over the invaders, and preserved from slavery those who were not yet subjugated, and generously liberated all the rest of us who dwell within the pillars.”
This dichotomy does not make sense unless we are talking about two separate time periods. Nine thousand years ago Athens was being seeded and Egypt did even exist as a civilisation for another one thousand years. But the Atlantean army set forth to conquer and enslave, but was defeated by a nation that was in its infancy! Clearly, this shows two stories with independent time lines. With this in mind, we can date the end of Atlantis after the armed conflict and deluge that destroyed Athens. For Plato writes “But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island.” B.Jowett (1871)
But another interpretation is “But at a later time there occurred portentous earthquakes and floods, and one grievous day and night befell them, when the whole body of your warriors was swallowed up by the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner was swallowed up by the sea and vanished; wherefore also the ocean at that spot has now become impassable and unsearchable, being blocked up by the shoal mud which the island created as it settled down”. W.R.M.Lamb (1925)
I think the key here is ‘But afterwards’ or ‘But at a later time’, this was a time period unknown ‘after’ the conflict and I would imagine that conflict would be many thousands of years after the establishment of Greece and Egypt with independent armies and leadership. We know from geologists that the last piece of Doggerland sank in about 4000 BC, which is about the time that the Greece Empire was at its height and the Atlantis Empire was all but gone, so it’s my opinion this is the time period Plato was referring too. This would also make sense of the line “For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island.” For even today some 6,000 years later, we refer to the area as the ‘dogger sand bank’.
Finally, there is evidence within Plato’s writing that there was contact with the Atlanteans even after the flood had taken way their major city Atlantis, for a line in Critias talking about the final flood gives us get another clue to the location of this legendry land, for Plato writes “ there are remaining in small islets only the bones of the wasted body, as they may be called, all the richer and softer parts of the soil having fallen away, and the mere skeletons of the country being left.” So what was left after Doggerland disappeared? We have to remember this sea level increase was happening all over the lost continent, so much so the Irish Sea separated Ireland from Wales, the English Channel was formed separating Britain from mainland Europe and the North Sea took the last of the peninsulas land mass and island to become a vast watery landscape – but the British Isles remained. In comparison would you not call that the ‘bones’ of what was formerly there, and does the makeup of this island look like a ‘skeleton of a country’?
Hyperborea
It would be wrong to imagine that Plato’s writings are the only one that mentions an ancient advanced civilisation that lived in prehistory, although he is the only one to mention Atlantis by name. The Greek scholar Herodotus (Histories, Book IV, Chapters 32-36) some 500 years BEFORE Plato talks about a myth of an ancient l
and called Hyperborea. Remembering that the Atlanteans had ‘seeded’ this culture in about 9000BC such myths should be considered, if not as solid as Plato’s works, but just as valid to endorse the location and description of the land, for the more pieces of the jigsaw we find the clear the picture we will obtain.
Map of Hyperboria by Abraham Ortelius 1572
The Hecataeus of Abdera in the 4th Century BC, believed Hyperborea was in Britain as:
“In the regions beyond the land of the Celts there lies in the ocean an island no smaller than Sicily. This island, is situated in the north and is habited by Hyperboreans, who are called by that name because their home is beyond the point whence the north wind blows; and the island is both fertile and productive of every crop, and has an unusually temperate climate”
From Diodorus Siculus (ii.47.1-2). Also the sun was supposed to rise and set only once a year – as it does in the North Eastern area of Atlantis known today as northern Sweden and Norway. Hecateaus of Abdera also wrote that the hyperboreans had a ‘circular temple’ on their island – is this Stonehenge or the temple of Apollo on the Plain of Atlantis?
Gothicism ( is the name given to what is considered to have been a cultural movement in Sweden, centred around the belief in the glory of the Swedish ancestors, originally considered to be the Geats, which were identified with the Goths)in the 17th century in Sweden, declared the Scandinavian peninsula was both Atlantis and Hyperborean land. Ptomolemy (Geographia, 2.21) and Marcian of Heraclea (perplus, 2.42) both placed Hyperborea in the north sea which they called the ‘Hyperborean Ocean’.
In conclusion, Hyperborea was a fabulous realm of eternal spring located in the far north beyond the land of winter. Its people were tall and blessed with , long-lived race free of war, hard toil, and the ravages of old age and disease. The land is usually described as a continent-bound land, bordered by the great earth-encircling river to the north (The Atlantic), and the great peaks of the mythical Rhipaion mountains to the south (The Alps). Its main river was the Eridanos (The Danube), which flowed south, drawing its waters directly from the Okean-stream (The Norwegian Trench). The shores of this stream were lined by amber-bearing poplar trees (as the Baltic Sea is at its source) and its waters inhabited by flocks of white swans. Blessed with eternal spring, the land producing two crops of grain per year. But most of the country was wild, covered with rich and beautiful forests, “the Garden of Apollo”.
The Golden Age
According to some modern thinkers (Blavatsky, Guenon and Evola), Hyperborea was the terrestrial and celestial beginning of civilisation. The home of original Man. Some theories postulate Hyperborea was the original ‘Garden of Eden’, the point where the earthly and heavenly planes meet. And it is said Man transgressed Divine Law in this ‘Golden Age’ civilisation, the ultimate price being his banishment to the outside world. Man ventured into other regions of Earth, establishing new civilisations, bringing to an end this great and glorious Golden Age.
The Golden Age is central to manifold ancient traditions and myths. Significantly, the Golden Age appears most frequent in the traditions of cultures stretching from India to Northern Europe — the area directly beneath the Polar regions. Joscelyn Godwin, in Arktos, The Polar Myth in Science, Symbolism and Nazi Survival, says:
“The memory or imagination of a Golden Age seems to be a particularity of the cultures that cover the area from India to Northern Europe… But in the ancient Middle East there is an obvious relic of the Golden Age in Genesis, as the Garden of Eden where humanity walked with the gods before the Fall. The Egyptians spoke of past epochs ruled by god-kings. Babylonian mythology… had a scheme of three ages, each lasting while the vernal [Spring] equinox precessed through four signs of the zodiac; the first of these, under the dominion of Anu, as a Golden Age, ended by the Flood. The Iranian Avesta texts tell of the thousand-year Golden Reign of Yima, the first man and the first king, under whose rule cold and heat, old age, death and sickness were unknown.”
The memory of a Golden Age, although rendered in an archetypal or mythological form, serves a super-historical purpose. This is why the remembrance of the ancient civilisation of Atlantis is sometimes enmeshed with that of Hyperborea. All myths are known to have a historical basis. Transmitted primarily by oral tradition, they are wrapped in a catchy and simple tale that ensures their survival and transmittal down through the ages. Myth serves an extremely vital function — a recollection of our beginnings, knowledge of where we are heading, and what we are supposed to do.
This I believe is the final piece of evidence that proves that Doggerland and the NEP was the continent and peninsula that is referred in history as Atlantis and we can now look at the monument they built to their land and see just how advanced this civilisation really was.
Acknowledgements
To be completed in the full version
13 Ancient ThingsAcknowledgements
1 Canadian Encyclopedia: http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/articles/glaciation
2 Macklin and Lewin 2003; Knight and Howard 2005; Greenwood and Smith 2005: Smith et al 2005.
3 Geomorthology 33 (2000) 167-181. D. Maddy et al.
4 Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_Great_Britain
5 Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peat
6 Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Carr
7 Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerset_Levels
8 See British Geological Society web site for an animation; http://www.bgs.ac.uk/discoveringGeology/climateChange/general/ seaLevelChangeCaseStudies.html
9 BBC News http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-14239742
10 Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levee
11 Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offa’s_Dyke
12 Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wansdyke_(earthwork)
13 English Heritage: http://www.pastscape.org.uk/hob.aspx?hob_id=219525
14 Mostly Herbs: http://www.mostlyherbs.com/Antiseptics.html
15 What-When-How: http://what-when-how.com/ancient-europe/brzesc-kujawski-
consequences-of-agriculture-5000-2000-b-c-ancient-europe
16 Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy
Author Biography
Robert John Langdon is a writer, historian and social philosopher who worked as an analyst for the government and some of the largest corporations and education institutes in Britain including British Telecommunications, Cable and Wireless, British Gas and University of London.
Since his retirement five years ago, Robert has studied Archaeology, Philosophy and Quantum Mechanics at University College London, Birkbeck College, The City Literature Institute and Museum of London. He has three children and two grandchildren and lives on the South Downs in East Sussex, where he owns a book shop which sells his literature and associated maps and prints.
He has been studying Archaeology, Anthropology and Philosophy for over 30 years. His blog and web sites have over 10k hits per month can is filled with his latest research and discoveries:
Blog: www.the-stonehenge-enigma.info.
Prehistoric Britain Trilogy: www.prehistoric-britain.co.uk
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Published Book Titles:
The Stonehenge Enigma, ABC Publishing Group, ISBN: 978-1-907979-01-9, 2010.
The Stonehenge Enigma - second edition, ABC Publishing Group, ISBN: 978-1-907979-02-6, 2013.
13 Ancient Things that don't make sense in History, ABC Publishing Group, ISBN 978-1-907979-08-8, 2014
Planned Book Titles:
Dawn of the Lost Civilisation, ABC Publishing Group - October 2014
Echoes of Atlantis, ABC Publishing Group - June 2015
Other Published Publications:
Langdon’s Prehistoric Map Series, ABC Publishing Group, Wiltshire UK - December 2013 ISBN: 978-1-907979-48-4; 978-1-907979-51-4; 978-1-907979-52-2;
978-1-
907979-49-2; 978-1-907979-53-8; 978-1-907979-54-9; 978-1-907979-50-6; 978-1-907979-55-2; 978-1-907979-56-9.
Planned Other Publications:
Islands of Wiltshire - Atlas, ABC Publishing Group - Dec 2014
Langdon’s Prehistoric Map Series, ABC Publishing Group, South Downs UK - Sept 2014
Islands of the South Downs - Atlas, ABC Publishing Group - November 2014
Table of Contents
PREHISTORIC BRITAIN Preference to the Second edition
Prologue
Introduction
The Hypothesis - Post Glacial Flooding
Section One – The GEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE
Chapter 1 – The Land called DOGGER
Chapter 2 – The Big Squeeze
Chapter 3 – WATER, water everywhere....
Chapter 4 - Geological Maps of Britain
Section Two - Archaeological Evidence
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