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interests are kept virtually apart from their offspring seems cruel. They hear emotional stories of mothers holding
babies they instinctively recognize as theirs, where it seems the babes are torn from their mother’s arms to be returned
to emotionless alien nurses standing at the side. Those who actually participate in these dramas understand the
underlying framework, and where they may be expressing emotion, they do not express rage or even resentment,
though perhaps some sadness.
Those who participate in the hybrid program are doing so because they agreed prior to their birth, prior even to their
next incarnation being selected, to participate. They understand the situation, that their hybrid children cannot live on
the Earth in human society at this time. They understand the rich and loving environment their hybrid children are
being raised within. Being solidly in the Service-to-Other orientation, they do not wish to remove their offspring from
this environment to be placed in a human setting where they in all likelihood would be maimed and killed and taunted.
Custody rights over the hybrid children is not an issue of the true parents, but becomes an issue with those who are
inserting themselves into the drama, outsiders as it were. In that they scarcely understand the many factors at play, and
most certainly don’t understand the resolve and commitment made by the human participants, they are not even armed
with the facts.
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ZetaTalk: Donor Fathers
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ZetaTalk: Donor Fathers
Note: written Dec 15, 1996
In keeping with their tendency to share personal experiences and seek emotional support from others, most reports
from contactees who are donors to the hybrid program have been from women. These reports describe how the women
who were donors were checked frequently to determine when they were about to ovulate or had vaginal procedures to
extract ova or implant the zygote or remove the fetus after the few weeks that it remains in the donor mother’s womb.
Donor mothers are also the partner who report meeting their offspring, highly emotional encounters where longing and
regret at the necessary separation between mother and child are openly expressed.
Where is the father in all of this, the male donor? In fact, the donor fathers have equally compelling experiences with
their offspring, and physical procedures to relate. The reason fewer reports emerge from the donor father is due to a
conflict between the father donor role and what human society perceives as the male role. In human societies the male
is the one in charge, the one who does to others, including the woman, not the one done to. This perception goes beyond the sex act, it permeates human society and the roles assumed by males and females. Males lead, they give
orders, they make the decisions, so the role they experience as donor fathers is utterly out of keeping with what they
have been told since boyhood is their proper place.
Father donors are examined as to their health regularly, and undergo sperm extraction at a time when the donor
mother’s ova is ready. Unlike the usual male sperm donation in human society, where the male is presumed to have
selected his bed mate and the time and place of a sexual encounter as well, donor fathers in the hybrid program chose
neither the mate or the time or place. To add to this insult, they are in the passive position when giving the donation. A
cup is placed over their genitals and the sexual response generated through mental influences solely. There is no
physical stimulation, and thus little pleasure. Where donor fathers are as willing to participate as the donor mothers,
when back in human society this is not the kind of experience that gets loud discussion in the locker room. Thus, not
much is heard about the donor father’s experiences.
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ZetaTalk: Extended Families
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ZetaTalk: Extended Families
Note: written Jun 15, 1997
Contactees participating in the hybrid program by contributing genetic material are introduced to their offspring on
occasion for a number of reasons. Primarily this is because they both wish to meet each other, a simultaneous desire.
As humans cannot be contacted by aliens unless the human gives The Call, and as The Call dictates the nature of the
visit, a desire on the part of the contactee to meet his or her offspring must be present for any introduction between the parent and child to occur. Likewise, we do not force a hybrid to meet the eager parents if they decline the invitation for
whatever reason. Most do decline, and thus the rarity of introductions.
Hybrids are for the most part entities who have been living in 4th Density for some time, and are volunteering for
difficult duty due to their sense of purpose and desire to give Service-to-Others. They are focusing on the future, on a
situation where numerous human souls who have known nothing but life on Earth will be reincarnating into hybrid
bodies. This will be an adjustment, though not a wrenching affair, for these new arrivals into 4th Density Service-to-
Other existence. Like all major adjustments, this one is expected to meet resistance. Human souls, who may dominate
the future hybrid group by their numbers, will be pressing for a return to old and familiar ways. Rather than integrate
into an existing 4th Density community, the force of numbers may incline the 4th Density community to integrate into
a memory of what human society was like.
Thus, the target community is kept firmly in mind, and interaction with humans contained at the point where human
culture and history is studied, but does not become such a loud voice that it drowns out the normal song sung by 4th
Density Service-to-Others communities. Human parents become emotional when encountering offspring, and this is to
be expected. This emotion can be impelling, and sway the resolve and focus of the entity incarnated into the hybrid
body. If the entity incarnating into the hybrid body judges themselves to be subject to influence, they may and most
often do decline a request for an introduction from their human parents.
What this means for the future interaction between hybrids and their parents is that little, if any interaction can be
expected. The parent-child relationship is in the hearts and minds of both parent and child, but this fact does not
predominate in importance over the target goal of helping large numbers of human souls adjust to 4th Density Service-
to-Other existence during the time of crisis following the coming pole shift. Slightly more than 25% of the human
population on Earth are fully Service-to-Other, and as with the rest of the human crowd, most will die in the 90%
death rate anticipated due to pole shift trauma or Aftertime disease, starvation, and exposure. The human parents are
holding out their arms, but their hybrid children are looking to their future welfare when they decline interaction.
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ZetaTalk: Cherish the Children
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ZetaTalk: Cherish the Children
Note: written by Jul 15, 1995
Regarding children, and what the Zetas think about them. The Zetas reproduce by growing themselves from one-cell
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biological entities just as humans do. We cherish children. This is one of the strongest ways those in the Service-to-
Others orientation can be of service. Children are vulnerable, and their motives are there for all the adults in the
vicinity to see. They are transparent. They can be touched in multifaceted places, before they have the armor of
adulthood. Those children who in this incarnation need to learn trust can be cared for without asking. Those children
who in this incarnation need to learn to share can be placed next to peers whose needs are greater than theirs. Those
children who in this incarnation need to learn confidence can be guided unabashedly by adults who applaud their
hesitant steps. Children represent an opportunity, and this opportunity should not be lost.
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ZetaTalk: Engineering Techniques
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ZetaTalk: Engineering Techniques
Note: written Oct 15, 1996
Human participants in development of a hybrid species assume that their eggs and sperm are taken so that the desired
Zetan genes can be mixed in during conception. Often female participants assume that they have been impregnated via
artificial insemination, when in fact they have had the fetus reinserted for a brief gestation period. In the main, mixing
the egg and sperm is the process, but several steps are involved.
Prior to combining the male and female strands, the strands are examined for undesirable traits such as heritable
diseases. Thus, it is not simply the fastest swimming sperm that becomes daddy, nor the nearest and most
available egg that become mommy.
After selecting the human male and female contribution, snipping and replacing occurs. In this process Zeta
genetics routinely replace certain human genetics - some human genes are routinely discarded, and some Zeta
genes not present at all in humans are inserted.
In some cases genes from an ancestor are used to replace the human genes secured from the male and female
donors. Almost invariably these are taken from data banks we maintain, but on rare occasion we are allowed to
go back in time to secure a needed sample. This step inserts and accentuates a desirable human trait.
Genetic engineering by arranged marriages has not and will not occur as part of the hybrid program. Our hybrids
participate in the hybrid program much as human participants do, by making contributions. At a much later date
marriage and the natural offspring will of course be the means that the hybrid race continues, but it is not yet ready to
be put on automatic pilot, as you say. The small amount of Zetan genetics that is mixed into the human population, as
a result of contactees volunteering to help us gather data or requesting modifications to help them in their work, does
not result in hybrid offspring. These genetics are local modifications, affecting the lining of the digestive tract, the brain neurons in a certain part of the brain, or the ability of a gland to produce a slightly different enzyme. These
changes do not affect future eggs or sperm that would be produced by the contactee.
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ZetaTalk: Cloning Bans
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ZetaTalk: Cloning Bans
Note: written Mar 15, 1997
Humans react to hearing about genetic engineering projects conducted by aliens with horror, not because the results are
horrible but because of horror stories they have been told. Are these horror stories true? Without exception, genetic
engineering experiments done by humans have been positive, not negative, resulting in improved crop yields, less
disease, and stronger off-spring. Man’s horror of genetic engineering stems from stories of monster makers such as
Frankenstein, which are fiction.
Piecing together humans from dead parts is absurd, as the difficulty in getting still living organs to successfully
transplant demonstrates. This is a continuous struggle, with the transplantee’s immune system continually
suppressed so rejection does not occur.
Selective parentage, where the best breeding bull is set among the cows or seed is taken from the highest
yielding plants, is indeed the first step toward genetic engineering, one practiced by man since he began
domesticating plants and animals.
Injecting DNA into cell structure, for adoption, is a step man has taken just recently, resulting in hope for those
crippled by genetic diseases such as Cystic Fibrosis. Here only local cells are altered, much akin to salving a
wound, but nonetheless this is a step on the genetic engineering ladder.
Snipping and replacing DNA is a step we, the Service-to-Other Zetas who are speaking to you here, have long
mastered. Should mankind learn this step, monsters might indeed be produced, but would scarcely live. Nature
herself snips and replaces DNA each time a conception occurs, with the egg and sperm coming together to make
a whole. Her mistakes are regularly flushed as natural abortions, and clumsy man would find he could do no
better.
Ancient pictures of half man/half beast creatures have engendered speculation that such creatures were created,
perhaps by the ancient gods, the giant hominoids from the 12th Planet. This is absurd on its face, as genes affect
the organism in totality, not selectively. How would a man’s arms and hands be on top, but hooves be below,
when hooves and fingernails are controlled by the same genes?
Cloning, a recent accomplishment of mankind, is nothing more than an artificially induced conception. If one
can mix an egg and sperm, creating a fertilized egg, one can insert whole DNA into an egg to produce the same
result. This is a simple mechanical maneuver, not a feat, and should not elicit fear. What is the worst that can
happen? Another like the other, which God made.
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ZetaTalk: Genetic Diseases
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ZetaTalk: Genetic Diseases
Note: written by Jul 15, 1995
Genetic diseases are concomitant with evolution. Most genetic diseases are an aberration of some biological maneuver
present in health. Auto-immune diseases are the immune response turned wrong. Obesity is a protective maneuver, to
maximize food consumption during times of plenty, gone wrong. Food stuffs do not spoil when packed around the ribs
in the form of fat. Just so, all genetic diseases, when their cause is understood, can be seen to be a normal maneuver of
the body gone wrong. These diseases are found in the animal kingdom too, and are not present in the human race for
any particular reason beyond your ability to survive in spite of these diseases. In the animal kingdom, afflicted animals
quickly die out. You protect your afflicted, allowing them not only to survive, but to propagate. In this way your
genetic diseases almost seem to increase, as though an affliction in and of themselves. This is not God's will. It is
God's will that you understand the marvelous workings of your genes, and harness their potential.
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ZetaTalk: Perfect Body
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ZetaTalk: Perfect Body
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A long life, stopping or slowing the aging process or even attaining immortality is much sought after by humans.
Humans would also love to modify themselves so they can eat endlessly and not gain weight, or have prolonged sexual
intercourse until they tire of sexual climax, or have all the physical characteristics that constitute attractiveness
between the sexes, or have athletic prowess and metal acuity, and while we're at it, not go bald. However, this does not
assist in the spiritual growth of the individual, which is the aim of incarnations. What lessons are to be learned if one
is never presented with problems? What painful adjustments must be made? We have stated that immature entities
require incarnations in order to develop spiritually, and without incarnations this process at this point in their
development goes much more slowly. Likewise, without hardship, the incarnations teach little.
It is not by accident that entities are incarnated in 3rd Density into deformed bodies, or mentally retarded bodies, or
ugly bodies. Nor is it by accident that the mix of physical disabilities in a family does not result in harmony. The
father, anticipating an athletic son, gets instead one clumsy and given to baby fat that seems never to melt. The
mother, hoping for a daughter to be her companion, gets instead one feisty and rebellious. The brother, wanting never
to have to share his toys or parent's attention, finds he has a number of younger siblings and is torn between being
insensitive to them and having his way. How do we move toward Service-to-Others or Service-to-Self in these
situations? This is the lesson of 3rd Density, and if all were perfect people, lessons would only be learned when there
is not enough to go around.
Similarly, in 4th Density, there are continuing lessons, aiming toward perfecting the entity's skills at operating within
the chosen orientation. And likewise, a perfect body delays the desired spiritual growth. The physical changes being
genetically engineered into a proper physical body for 4th Density Service-to- Others existence are not aimed,
