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by Nancy Lieder


  composes the physical world. Where the physical world of 3rd Density cannot sense or interact with the physical

  world of 4th Density, due to their vibrational differences, entities in spirit form transcend these physical barriers and

  can interact, and the reason is simple - the spirit has only one density, so all are in touch with one another. Does this

  mean that an alien moving into 4th Density during a visitation on Earth can still spiritually interact with the contactee?

  Absolutely. This is exactly what it means. Do not entities in light form greet 3rd Density humans experiencing a Near

  Death Experience? When we speak of spiritual densities, we are referring to moral or growth levels, not a form of

  physical density.

  Humans who have what we have termed virgin souls, those first congealing in the consciousness of the human, are no

  less able to communicate with other souls than old souls. The issue is not their ability, as a virgin soul, but for want of

  a better term, their weight and mass. Old souls have an equivalent of the human brain's tendrils, connections, and number of brain cells. They live on because of this, the complexity of interactions and memories that hold the soul

  together. Young souls that dissipate because of lack of what we have termed a spark, have few connections, few

  substantial memories that create connections, and thus there is in essence nothing there. However, during the lifetime of this virgin incarnation, the soul that IS there can communicate with other souls, and thus is part of what is

  commonly termed the collective subconscious. They, however, ask more questions than give answers, and have few

  insights, so are more the receivers than the transmitters.

  The world in which an entity evolves upon does made an imprint on the entity, that has a strong but not dominant

  effect on it's future. This is an easy concept for mankind to relate to, as the culture that they come from determines

  their outlook, how they interact with others, and the restrictions they impose upon themselves. However, just as

  humans find they become citizens of the world during travel, or living and working abroad, just so souls incarnating

  into other lifeforms find they have a common bond and base with other souls. Evolution into higher spiritual densities

  is akin to world travel, in the human experience, a rich tapestry of encounters with fascinating cultures and attitudes.

  Each learns from the other, and grows. And eventually, the experiences of all are the experiences of each. Where is leading is part of God's plan, and not something we can speak to with experience or knowledge.

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  ZetaTalk: Eternal Soul

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  ZetaTalk: Eternal Soul

  Note: written Dec 15, 1995

  Is the soul immortal? In that it surpasses human mortality and steadily grows, learning and increasing in mass and

  wisdom with each incarnation - it is immortal. But what is mortality for a soul? It is born, in a manner of speaking, on

  3rd Density worlds where it forms within creatures intelligent enough to offer the spark. Forming entities react to their

  surroundings, and as the stuff of souls is everywhere in the Universe, forming takes place to some degree in many

  living things but dissipates for lack of a spark. Like pollen that cannot grow unless moved by an external agent, a bee

  or the winds, forming entities in moss or bugs or tall trees or birds is a potential only, and dissipates when the life

  form dies.

  Worlds are seeded with life and later seeded with intelligent life, a genetically engineered variation of a native species,

  so as to give forming entities a leg up. Intelligence is the spark that causes forming entities to build to the point where

  they do not dissipate, as they themselves have become alive. We have mentioned that souls do not die during nuclear

  explosions, nor do they lose themselves in Black Holes. Entities are of material that can affect its surroundings while

  remaining untouched. The stuff of souls does not feed, nor does it expend itself. It influences its surroundings by

  manipulation of its surroundings, like a puppet master pulling strings, rather than expending its resources like an

  audience throwing tomatoes. Souls, once formed, do not die. They may grow rapidly or slowly, may stagnate or

  plateau for a long time or forever, but they do not die, nor do they shrink. Beyond this, we cannot say, as we ourselves

  know no more.

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  ZetaTalk: Spirit Substance

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  ZetaTalk: Spirit Substance

  Note: written Mar 15, 1996

  What humans refer to as the soul, what is sometimes called the spirit or which we refer to as the entity, is not what is

  supposed by most humans. They imagine a vapor, something that can move through walls like a ghost, something

  without substance that seeks to influence the physical world around it with little success. They realize the soul can

  remember, as past lives are recalled, but do not imagine that a physical brain is required. The view that humans have of

  the soul is, as could be expected, the view from the human vantage point. What is missing from the vantage point is

  the ability to see the soul, as the substance is not something that the human eye can perceive.

  The soul has substance, and grows in bulk early in its development as many incarnations, many lives, are experienced.

  This bulk cannot be gauged by humans, who look upon one another as having equal souls, when nothing of the kind is

  the reality. Some souls are so tiny and poorly constructed that they dissipate after the incarnation, what we term

  aborted entities. This type of soul may be present in many animals and even some plant forms, as the stuff of souls is

  dispersed throughout the Universe and incarnations happen naturally. Where the human eye cannot gauge the mass of

  another soul, the spirits gauge this very well. You know instinctively that another is old and wise. Spiritual growth

  occurs most rapidly early on via incarnations, but later this growth proceeds based on experiences outside of

  incarnations, and incarnations are not needed for this purpose. Incarnations continue to be used as a learning

  experience, however, from time to time.

  The soul not only has memory, it does not forget. It is not by accident that intelligent life forms have nerves, brains,

  and memory in the form of chemical impressions. It is not by accident that this same structure is found for intelligent

  thought on all density levels. It is intrinsic to the way the Universe is structured, and thus souls likewise have such

  structures. The stuff of souls is simply another density level, one that touches on all the others. It is finer and more

  durable, at the same time. It could be called the base of matter, in that regard, as it permeates all levels where matter

  can reside. Intelligent life forms come in many shapes and sizes, but all have brains and nerves. Thus a soul can

  incarnate in a hominoid at one point in its development, and into quite another life form during another incarnation,

  without any adaptation required.

  The soul does not require food or nourishment as physical life forms do. The human animal cannot retain its shape

  without fuel, without maintaining a certain temperature and replacing damaged or consumed biochemicals. It must eat

  to survive. Souls do not require a temperature maintenance, and by their nature maintain their own chemist
ry, the only

  outside reach required is to acquire more of the stuff of souls, present everywhere in the Universe, when growth in

  bulk is occurring.

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  ZetaTalk: Life Began

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  ZetaTalk: Life Began

  Note: written Apr 15, 1997

  With all the talk about seeding planets with life bearing potential to give them a start and genetic engineering of

  species with conscious intelligence potential to boost the potential for sparking forming entities, the reader might think

  that life does not begin without an assist. This is of course not the case, as how did life first begin if not by a natural course.

  There are sectors of the Universe forming from a big bang where existing intelligent entities do not travel as the

  chemical mix there would be poisonous to them, and beyond the impossibility of travel no DNA implanted

  would survive! Life begins there and evolves to intelligent species all without assistance, and until the entities

  are mature enough to converse with other sans bodies, communication with those entities elsewhere that still

  require incarnations is at a standstill. Administration of these parts of the Universe is conducted by wise and

  massive entities who operate in light form.

  There are seeded planets where life begins not from the DNA implanted, but rather with DNA that evolves

  naturally. Those who seeded the planet return to check on their handiwork and find a surprise. Likewise the

  genetic engineering of intelligent species can take surprising turns. It sometimes happens that the species

  selected as most likely to evolve and given a boost dies out and another becomes the dominant intelligent

  species, or perhaps a contest ensues and the species selected by the visiting engineers is not the winner. Natural

  evolution is dictating the outcome in these matters.

  Where life is complex, it is built of simple building blocks. As with the child’s game of Lego, where a single

  oblong building block with multiple connection points on its sides can create vast structures, just so each

  component of DNA with limited abilities to bond with other components in and of themselves, can form

  complex strands. There is complexity not in the bond itself, but in the resulting strand, which has the capacity to

  replicate itself due to the tendency of chemicals to arrange themselves along the strand in accordance with the

  pattern already established.

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  ZetaTalk: Space Dust, Alive?

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  ZetaTalk: Space Dust, Alive?

  written Jan 6, 2006

  Life, of course, is everywhere, as we have explained, emerging on diverse worlds,

  carbon or silicon based or emerging on worlds humans would consider too poisonous

  for life. Gaseous planets support life, on occasion, nor is DNA, per se, required.

  Crystals develop, start and grow, but are not considered life. Why? Because mobility is

  utterly lacking, and thus any ability for conscious thought as independence from the

  environment is not possible. A tree lacks mobility but is alive, because it reacts to

  attacks against itself by healing its wounds and seeks to perpetuate itself by leaning into

  the sunlight. Life defends itself, perpetuates itself, and seeks to grow by accumulation.

  With mobility comes intelligence, scarcely needed otherwise. With intelligence can

  come consciousness, the awareness of the self as distinct from other life. We have

  stated that life evolves naturally on many planets, those that can sustain life, and the

  numbers are far beyond what man imagines possible. Some type of liquidity is

  invariably a necessity for the start of life, so the chemicals required can encounter each

  other. This may be a liquid or a gaseous state. That said, why would dust from a meteor appear to be alive, a form of

  life in any case, celular?

  Most of the meteors that sling past Earth are from the solar system, despite what human astronomers declare. As we

  have stated, comets, the dirty snowballs that outgas brilliantly as they round the Sun, are vestiges of a couple dozen

  planets that rode the Asteroid Belt in the past, water planets almost to a one, and lifebearing. The Asteroid Belt holds

  the majority of the magma from those planets, which burst into space and hardened into odd shapes. If life had begun,

  on all those planets, what stage of development were they in? Life, whether it evolves naturally or is seeding to

  expedite the process, does not develop in a day. It develops in steps and stages. One stage is in place before the next

  step can be taken. DNA supports the ability of life to replicate itself and carry forward the dictates of biological

  function. Since man comes late to examining his own beginnings, he cannot determine if DNA arrived before the cell,

  or the cell was in place before the DNA. The assumption is that DNA came first, links forming in some kind of

  primordial soup, and the cell developed later as a protective device. Now, they know otherwise.

  DNA in a soup would be subject to assault, continually, and thus not perpetuate itself with any certainty. Life does not

  develop in chaos, but rather where a soup with rich ingredients exist. Complex molecules form in nature, as an

  example, the petrochemicals that form over the heat of volcanoes, or during lightning storms. The cell body does not dissipate without DNA, as human scientists know. It feeds, and continues. It does this without assistance, as long as the

  soup it finds itself in allowed growth. Death of a cell occurs only when it is attacked, exposed to attack, so that the

  molecular functions that allowed it to form and retain form are disrupted. The evidence dropped to Earth was encased

  in an asteroid chunk that protected the molecular composition of these cells from the formerly life bearing planets in

  the Asteroid Belt. They thus had no reason to die. But as the shape clearly presents, this was a stage of life prior to

  DNA insertion, the next stage. DNA naturally forming in primordial pools needs a nest, a shelter. With cells about, it

  can migrate through the skin of a cell to interior chambers, which it does today. Is this not what the virus does, when

  infecting a cell? Is this not what RNA does when it travels between cells, communicating?

  Signs of the Times #1529

  Skepticism greets claim of possible alien microbes [Jan 5] http://www.world-science.net/ 'A paper

  to appear in a scientific journal claims a strange red rain might have dumped microbes from space

  onto Earth four years ago. At least 50,000 kg (55 tons) of the particles have fallen in all. People on

  the streets found their cloths stained by red raindrops. In a few places the concentration of particles

  were so great that the rainwater appeared almost like blood. The particles look like one-celled

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  ZetaTalk: Space Dust, Alive?

  organisms and are about 4 to 10 thousandths of a millimeter wide, somewhat larger than typical

  bacteria. The particles seem to lack a nucleus, the core DNA-containing compartment that animal

  and plant cells have, the researchers wrote. Chemical tests indicated they also lacked DNA, the

  gene-carrying molecule that most types of cells contain. The outer envelope seems to contain an

  inner capsule, which in some places appea
rs to be detached from the outer wall to form an empty

  region inside the cell. Further, there appears to be a faintly visible mucus layer present on the outer

  side of the cell. The major constituents of the red particles are carbon and oxygen. Carbon is the

  key component of life on Earth. Silicon is most prominent among the minor constituents of the

  particles; other elements found were iron, sodium, aluminum and chlorine. The red rain

  phenomenon first started in Kerala after a meteor airburst event, which occurred on 25th July 2001.

  Alive or dead, the particles have some staying power, if the paper is correct. Even after storage in

  the original rainwater at room temperature without any preservative for about four years, no decay

  or discolouration of the particles could be found.'

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  ZetaTalk: Forming Entities

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  ZetaTalk: Forming Entities

  Note: written Nov 15, 1995

  In the beginning, each forming entity is aware only of themselves. Self awareness is a constant state in all life of

  whatever form, but at the start this is the only state. Forming entities are placed into 3rd Density incarnations,

  repeatedly, to hasten the 3rd Density lesson - orientation determination. Whether incarnated or not, forming entities

  first become aware of others based on the effect upon the self. Is the effect pleasant or unpleasant, dominating or

  acquiescing, desired or resisted. Incarnated or not, social interchange has begun. Sense of the other is also born in this

  context, not only in awareness of the partner in social interactions, but by observing others undergoing a similar

  experience. Empathy is in essence the statement, "I was once there, and I understand." Within 3rd Density there is first self awareness, second reacting to the presence of others, and last the capacity for empathy.

  In making the orientation determination the entity choosing Service-to-Self is not so much progressing towards this

  determination as clinging back. They remain most comfortable with self awareness, and react to others in this context,

 

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