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by Nancy Lieder


  lieutenant to a strong arm individual in that new environment. They will try to gain their entry ticket by being violent and sadistic and horrifying in their determination to dominate others, to create a control situation, and to show that

  they themselves cannot be intimidated by turning their guns on themselves.

  This is present in almost all cases of the extreme and unexplainable violence you see in young people of late. If you

  were to go into the homes and watch these children while they were growing up, you'll find that they are not normal

  children, though the parents may have been unaware. In external social behavior, they have been immaculately careful

  to be in compliance so that they fade into the social veneer, but there is something that others can tell you they sensed was wrong. A vibration, a sense of coldness, a lack of caring, a slowness to respond under certain circumstances where

  someone who was in the same setting would have flushed and jerked and rushed to another’s aid. Little signs, that are

  generally overlooked, but they were there.

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  ZetaTalk: Amish Massacre

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  ZetaTalk: Amish Massacre

  written Oct 7, 2006 on the live GodlikeProduction live chat.

  There have been quite a few school shootings lately. This last one happened to the Amish. I wonder if

  Planet X is making people a little more irritable and just plain nutty. Can the Zetas comment on these new

  shootings?

  School shootings have sprung into the news in the last few years in the US, as a new occurrence. They are not new, but the level of violence is new, and their occurrence in peaceful suburban schools rather than in inner city schools is a

  new trend. In the slums, knife fights are common, and many schools have armed guards at the doors in order to allow

  the school to function at all. In these neighborhoods, drive by shootings occur, the innocent taken out as target practice, for sport. This seldom hits the news, as it is considered commonplace, and the media panders to the wealthy or

  comfortable and their interests and concerns. At most, such violence in schools in the slums gets mentioned when

  statistics on rising violence of the prison population are discussed. So what has caused this behavior to migrate into

  comfortable suburban neighborhoods, and into peaceful and relatively crime free rural areas, and with a level of

  violence not anticipated by school administrators and not present in the past?

  We have mentioned that society should expect increased polarization between those in the Service-to-Other and Service-to-Self as the Transformation proceeds. Those souls that have incarnated repeatedly in the past are aware of

  past pole shifts, aware of the die-off that occurs during a pole shift, and aware from discussions with their spirit guides that this incarnation will be their last in a schoolhouse that allows both orientations to mix. Thus, those in the Service-to-Self are often making their mark as they leave, to show their new bosses that they can be trusted to be ruthless,

  hoping to vie for the best positions in their new worlds. We mentioned during the Columbine massacre that mankind should expect more of these episodes, as many highly Service-to-Self individuals are deciding to go out with a bang,

  in control of their exit, and not wait for the pole shift which would potentially take control from them. Why the

  molestation of young girls, as part of the package? Mere murder and terror are not enough, they are raising the bar into

  pedophilia, and competing with one another!

  Signs of the Times #1645

  Another Colorado School Shooting [Sep 28] http://history1900s.about.com/ Less than 40 miles away from Littleton, Colorado where the Columbine school massacre took place in 1999, another high

  school shooting occurred on Sep 27, 2006. This time, an older man attacked a class at Platte

  Canyon High School in Bailey, Colorado. The man released all the male students and kept the

  female students as hostage, then killed one student and himself as SWAT closed in. [and from

  another] Principal killed at Wisconsin school; 9th-grader charged [Sep 30] A teenager who pried

  open his family's gun cabinet brought two weapons to his rural school Friday and shot the principal

  to death after a struggle with adults and other students, authorities said. the teen had complained

  about being teased by other students and decided to confront teachers and the principal using a

  shotgun and handgun taken from his parents' bedroom. The shooting also came one day after

  Weston Schools Principal John Klang gave him a disciplinary warning for having tobacco,

  according to a criminal complaint. [and from another] School killer told wife he molested family

  members [Oct 3] Pennsylvania schoolhouse killer Charles Carl Roberts IV told his wife he molested

  young relatives 20 years ago and was dreaming about molesting children again. Investigators talked

  to relatives and analyzed suicide notes as they tried to determine what made Roberts barricade

  himself inside the tiny Amish school, tying up girls and shooting them -- five fatally -- before killing

  himself Monday. Roberts may have targeted the school for its girl students intended to molest the

  children. Roberts brought KY Jelly lubricant to the schoolhouse where the assault occurred.

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  ZetaTalk: Virginia Tech Massacre

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  ZetaTalk: Virginia Tech Massacre

  written Apr 18, 2007

  Gunman's Writings Were Disturbing [Apr 17]

  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ The gunman in the Virginia

  Tech massacre was a sullen loner who alarmed professors

  and classmates with his twisted, violence-drenched creative

  writing and left a rambling note raging against religion and

  rich kids. A chilling picture emerged of Cho Seung-Hui _ a

  23-year-old senior majoring in English. He may have been

  taking medication for depression and he was becoming

  increasingly violent and erratic. Cho's writing was so

  disturbing that he had been referred to the university's

  counseling service. One was about a fight between a stepson

  and his stepfather, and involved throwing of hammers and attacks with a chainsaw. Another was about

  students fantasizing about stalking and killing a teacher who sexually molested them. Monday's rampage

  consisted of two attacks, more than two hours apart _ first at a dormitory, where two people were killed,

  then inside a classroom building, where 31 people, including Cho, died. Cho died with the words "Ismail

  Ax" in red ink on one of his arms, but they were not sure what that meant. [and from another] Va. Tech:

  Gunman Student From S. Korea [Apr 17] Neighbor Abdul Shash said the gunman spent a lot of his free

  time playing basketball, and wouldn't respond if someone greeted him. [and from another] Ismail's Father

  Ibrahim destroys the city's idols with an ax. [and from another] ABC News: Killer's Note: 'You Caused Me

  to Do This' [Apr 17] Witnesses say he was stone-faced as he opened fire. Law-enforcement sources say

  he may have had a romantic interest in a young woman who was found dead after the first shootings. He

  wore sunglasses indoors, with a cap pulled low over his eyes. He whispered, took 20 seconds to answer

  questions.

  We were asked to comment after the Columbine massacre, and after the Amish school massacre, and had the same comment both times. There is more to these shooting than meets the eye, but the reason for
the cold hearted blood lust

  is not some black ops under human control but an audition. The shooter, the perpetrator, is auditioning for a spot in the hierarchy among the Service-to-Self, on the Service-to-Self worlds they will be incarnating into next. The Earth is in a

  Transformation, where those in the Service-to-Self are increasingly sorted into circles where they interact with each other, in preparation for their future incarnations on Service-to-Self worlds. Likewise, those in the Service-to-Other

  seek each other out and form communities, and all this is in preparation for the forthcoming change on Earth where

  only those in the Service-to-Other will be allowed to incarnate on Earth. In this increasingly polarized setting, what happens to the mindset of those in the Service-to-Self, who increasingly are denied access to the patsies and victims

  and lackeys they have always found in abundance? There is resistance to bullying, because the Service-to-Other shore

  each other up and defend each other. There is lack of access to the weak, whom the Service-to-Self like to bully, as

  they are under the protection of strong Service-to-Other groups who set the tone and don't allow bullying. The Service-

  to-Self, in short, become enraged.

  We have stated that The Call for counseling by Service-to-Self aliens is done by the human being in an almost continuous state of rage. This type of chronic frustration does not happen because of life circumstances, as in this

  setting intermittent rage occurs. But the Service-to-Self want life wrapped around them, serving them, no blocks to

  their satisfactions or desires, no challenge to their authority or sense of ego. Few humans in life attain such a setting, so those in the Service-to-Self who are not somehow blessed with a life that provides what they demand, a totally self

  focused life without frustrations, are enraged, chronically. They fume. They desire revenge over slights. And they find slights occurring daily, among people simply treating them as they do the rest of the populace, during normal

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  ZetaTalk: Virginia Tech Massacre

  interactions. If they are not waited on promptly, given preferential treatment, given grades at school they do not

  deserve, given authority over others when leadership positions are chosen, getting sexual satisfaction from the partners they desire - they assume a slight and are fuming and plotting revenge, if only in their heart.

  Cho Seung-Hui fit this profile exactly. He increasingly slid to easier courses, from a business major to an English

  major. His choice of an engineering building for the massacre was not by accident, as this is a highly disciplined

  major, one with greater status on campus than an English major can gain, one more respected by the girls, and thus

  Cho Seung-Hui wanted to somehow best this group if only by having a gun when they did not have. He had poor

  interpersonal skills yet was stalking beautiful partners, ultimately trying to intimidate one with a gun and losing his temper when she did not submit. Were he physically stronger he would have become a rapist, such was his mindset.

  He enjoyed the concept of brutality, as his writings showed, but like most bullies did not get into situations where the tide might have been turned against him. He avoided physical contact, fearing his slight frame would not prevail. He

  was known to wear sunglasses and a low-brim hat, to avoid eye contact, and to refuse to answer when people spoke to

  him casually. This again shows someone timid and fearful of losing out during interpersonal contact but with the

  immense ambitions all in the Service-to-Self carry for themselves, the basic bully personality.

  Was he programmed like a Manchurian Candidate to explode on cue? Such clues as a phrase written on his forearm,

  'Ismail Ax', relate to a literary character, the arm of God used in a massacre. Unable to get status and beautiful women in life, he hoped to at least attain this type of stature in death. What of his seeming familiarity with firearms? Given that any evening watching TV would show the expert use of firearms, repeatedly, the ability to use these automatic

  weapons effectively should not be a surprise. Who was his teacher? The TV! Cho Seung-Hui is reported to have a

  grim determined visage, unemotional, thus the suspicion that he was programmed to carry out his deed. Having been

  counseled by aliens in the Service-to-Self to promulgate such a disaster, he was pushed over the edge by having lost

  his temper when confronting a would-be lady love, who once again rejected him. At this point he was faced with

  prison, as he knew he had not covered his trail, the first shooting being an accidental outcome of an intended

  intimidation. Bullies who are slight of build do not fare well in prison, so the idea of going out in a blaze of glory, posturing as an Ismail Ax, and moving on to what he assumed was his next place on another world, was more

  appealing. Thus, he was not so much angry during the subsequent shootout as determined to carry out a mission.

  Will he get his reward? When giving a Service-to-Self Call, such humans receive counseling from aliens in the Service-to-Self, who are of course looking out for themselves as much as possible also. The advice, thus, is less to the benefit of the human giving The Call than to the aliens answering The Call, but their advice is postured to seem an

  advantage to the human. Encouraged to create as much heartache and sense of fear and abandonment possible in

  human society, the human giving The Call is told they will have a better place in the society they are destined to

  incarnate in. The ticket, of course, is something horrific, the bigger and more horrific, the better. Columbine was

  children killing children. The Amish school massacre was sweet Amish girls being raped in the center of their

  community. The Virginia Tech massacre had chained doors preventing escape and a certainty that those inside were

  not armed to defend themselves so the lone gunman ruled, absolutely, while turning a deaf ear on all pleas. Do these

  souls taking this advice actually get a better placement in their future society? They are being counseled by liars, as all in the Service-to-Self freely lie for their advantage, so the promise would of course not be kept. And someone so

  easily led about by the nose as to believe such a promise made would be kept would not be considered a leader in any society.

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  ZetaTalk: Nebraska Mall

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  ZetaTalk: Nebraska Mall

  written December 8, 2007

  Worst Mass

  Slaying In

  Nebraska

  History Claims

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  December 5,

  2007

  http://www.ketv.com/news/14782867/detail.html

  The worst mass slaying in Nebraska history claimed the lives of five men and three women, plus the

  shooter. The gun used at Westroads Mall was an SKS-style assault rifle with two magazines taped

  together. Taping magazines together is a technique that allows the shooter to reload more quickly.

  He stole the weapon from his stepfather. The shooting appears to be random and without

  provocation.

  Hawkins fit the profile of one highly in the Service-to-Self. Was it depression that caused him to drop out of high

  school and fail to perform to the level of expectation at McDonalds? He resented having to do any of it, and refused.

  His refusal may only have been expressed as passive resistance, not an explosion of anger, but it was nonetheless an

  expression of his expectations. Life was to deliver what he needed, with no effort required on his part. Hawkins was

  not mentally retarded, nor neglected as a child. He was given extensive intervention assistance by the
state of

  Nebraska, which repeatedly intervened during his teen years. He was not without a home, escaping the mild discipline

  his family imposed on him by moving in with friends. Nor was he about to be kicked out of this new home, which was

  endlessly sympathetic to him, where it was assumed he was dealing with a depression rather than an attitude problem.

  Was he depressed? In that depression is rage turned inward, yes, but at no time were his life circumstances such that

  he could not turn his life around. He could have obtained a high school degree, and gone forward to a local college or

  job training. In all of this he would have been supported. He could have returned to his family, too, by simply

  complying with a few ordinary family rules. None of this was the life he desired, as the expectations of a highly Service-to-Self soul is not to do any work but to be allowed to do whatever he pleases, and to receive whatever he

  desires, promptly. That this was not forthcoming in his life was the source of his depression.

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  neer-do-well, a slackard, one who did as little as possible to maintain body and soul together, and always looking for

  the easy path and foisting off on others any unpleasant task. Such individuals often become drug addicts or drunkards,

  blaming their failures in life on an addiction and begging for handouts. The path assumed by such individuals often is

  shaped by the expectations of those of whom they are taking advantage of. If there is any physical attribute they can

  use, such as a lack of good looks or intelligence or a lame foot, these attributes are endlessly emphasized as the reason for a lack of ambition in the work and school world. In an affluent setting where treatment options are endless, such an individual might quickly assume the persona of a troubled child or a depressed adult, as a cover, but in an underclass

 

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