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some type of a cure for this disease that we were expected to undergo ourselves. And the reason that J-Rod was a guest of our government at S4 is that allegedly had come back in time to warn us that these cataclysms, these
catastrophes. This is confirmation to me that what [ZetaTalk] had been saying was true. And that by warning us,
they were hopefully going to receive our help in preparing us, genetically for the period of time after the cataclysms.
DonDepp
This is a partial truth. What has been relayed to you, what you have relayed to the audience on the radio
here, is factual. There was such a visitor, there was such information relayed, there was such genetic
research done, but this was not ourselves or our brethren in Service-to-Other. As we have relayed
extensively in ZetaTalk, the original contact prior to Roswell was not by Service-to-Other aliens but by
Service-to-Self, the Omnipotent Krill and the like. These aliens were the ones below ground in the
Southwest where the public is restricted, who did provide space ships and allow the US Military to attempt to fly them, to attempt to reverse engineer but they never succeeded.
This business about a particular illness that will be prevalent after the cataclysm and a certain people who
will be inoculated that will survive smacks of elitism, does it not? This is not true. Illness is more
prevalent, increasing illness was one of the predictions that we made well prior to the year 2000 and has
been much on the increase. Common germs, or opportunistic germs outside of their normal environment.
Because of the stress and strain of the core swirling, the erratic weather and the double suns in the sky.
After the cataclysms things get even worse. There’s dirty water, a lack of proper food, a lack of proper
hygiene, depression, and most of the die-off that we have predicted comes not from injury or drowning
experienced during the pole shift itself, but afterwards, due to depression, malnutrition, and just a
willingness to let yourself go rather than subsist in the manner that life is presenting to you.
This is a true story, but it is a false story told by this alien. Another clue that this is a Service-to-Self alien
is the fact that it has a name. We do not assign names to ourselves. We don’t need them. We work
telepathically.
ZetaTalk: Density Shift
As we have described on the website in the Density section, this is a matter of increasing a vibrational level. In
order to shift to 4th Density, all atomic particles must be moving at a faster rate simultaneously. This on
occasion happens naturally, for instance in your Bermuda Triangle, under the stress of compression of particles
that are base particles. You are not even aware of what these base particles are. We have referred to them as tiny
matter in the Dark Matter discussion in the Science section of ZetaTalk, but there are filler particles that
surround all other particles, and this we get going under pressure which causes all other higher or more dense,
larger particles to begin vibrating faster due to the pressure, and it stays that way. There’s a different strata that’s achieved, and likewise, the pressure is relieved, artificially relieved, a type of vacuum created, in order to move
back. This is a natural phenomena, that creatures of higher intelligence such as ourselves, evolved spirits, have
learned to manipulate, because higher densities allow the physical to be less heavy, less difficult to work with,
and the spiritual to have more sway with the body, as we have described in ZetaTalk.
ZetaTalk: Soulless Ones
This is perhaps a way of describing Service-to-Self entities. They strive not to be empathetic. This is not that they lack a soul, they have a soul that has not matured past the infantile stage as far as the ability to share with others. Intellectually they have grown, but emotionally they are not reaching out to others and including others
in the same importance of themselves. An infant thinks only of himself. Squalls when he is hungry, is angry
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when he can’t have his way, and as he grows, learns to care about others. Service-to-Self, no matter how
intelligent, have not allowed that portion of themselves to develop. They reach a point where they are stalemated
unless they begin to pull themselves whole and reach back and make up for this lack of development. A soulless
one, as described in this book, is one who does not interact and does not chose to. This is a description by
somebody who has met these visitors, given the Call to them , and found them to be of this ilk.
ZetaTalk: Alien Threat
The worst threat is buried within you. We are speaking here of mankind in general. Aliens cannot come down
upon you unless you wish it, so the worst would be somebody who is giving the Service-to-Self call, and by
doing so in interacting with Service-to-Self aliens, visitors, who are allowed to toy with this person who has
given this request for such counsel in many cruel ways. In the Service-to-Self social structure, there is no limit to what one entity can do to another, for amusement, for retaliation. Sadistic, cruel treatment of one human being to
another would give you some idea of what’s allowed. They don’t have rules except that the most powerful rules
and wins, the rule of the strong. They have leveling wars where this is established. Humans who give the Call to
the Service-to-Self have put themselves in a situation where they are psychologically discussing matters, but
should they give in to the dominance that is present, and submit, basically, to the Service-to-Self aliens, other
steps can be taken. It can amount to physical abuse, but this is with the acquiescent or agreement of the human
who has given the Call. Therefore, the danger lies within YOU, and the limits to this are that if the person
requests it, and wants it, the visitor is allowed to deliver it. Thus, whether that be illness, physical disability, or distress in their possessions and the way their life is progressing. So we would tell people to look to themselves,
and consider that the Service-to-Self orientation is immature, self limiting, and not the way to go at all. Begin to care for others, and look around you as to how you might do this, and you will not meet with such situations.
ZetaTalk: Universe Administration
There is an administrative force in the Universe, in our portion of the Universe, and it is the one we are aware of
because as far as we have ranged we have not escaped or crossed over the line to where we are under a different
administration. These are wise and massive souls who are elected by a true electoral vote of all that they
administer and separate those in Service-to-Self from the Service-to-Other. Service-to-Other entities may at
times argue with each other, but this is benign argument as all have the common good in mind, and these issues
are brought to the Council of Worlds, to these wise and massive entities for discussion and resolution. Service-
to-Self, of course, savage each other brutally and are allowed to do so in leveling wars, but since we are Service-
to-Other, we have no personal experience with this and are unable to relay to you, but it is akin to a prison
colony atmosphere and you have to be hardened Service-to-Self to go there. Very, very few do. You have to
think of yourself 95% of the time, which is a criteria that very few entities achieve. So not having experienced
that, we cannot relate.
ZetaTalk: Group Names
There are so many worlds that evolve life, each with a different life form or a variatio
n on a life form. As we
have said in the Density section of ZetaTalk, most are water planets or water creatures, next are reptilian, bird
forms, very few hominoid, some even insect forms, depending upon what the world can sustain. If we were to
put zeros on it, we would not even be able to run the numbers from you around the Sun and back, there are so
many worlds that evolve life. Therefore, it is not a single group, or the name that someone might assign to them.
Names that you have been told by contactees, or by people claiming to be contactees, of this or that group and
what they are like, are often totally fictional or don’t relate in reality to what’s really there. So it would be
pointless for us to try to sort out what name someone might be thinking relates to that entity. There is so much
disinformation out there as to what aliens are or how they operate.
ZetaTalk: Proof of Zetas
Nancy has presented a case for ZetaTalk that is immensely popular around the world, famous around the world,
in all countries, and has done so without any finances or promotional force behind her. The reason for this is the
nature of ZetaTalk, which is compelling and people find has the ring of truth. It pulls together explanation for
many phenomena and issues that they have wondered about, found to be discordinant, contradictory
explanations given in human society. ZetaTalk pulls it together. Therefore, these are aspects that are not being
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considered by those who state that Nancy has not been given any proof that the Zetas are real. This is evidence
that this is not Nancy. Earlier in ZetaTalk, this is the statement most often given, she has to be a team of people, experts in the various sciences to come up with these explanations, they pull together, there is a cohesiveness,
and a single human could not do this. They found this to be proof that it was not Nancy but ourselves giving this
information. These days, she is under such attack, or people are so distressed at the message that they go into
screaming denial, that this is not much discussed. But if you will consider our words, you will find that we have given her evidence of our existence, and she has relayed this to people.
ZetaTalk: Spiritual Evolution
Even in planets that have life forms such as a fish or jelly fish or octopus, have similar spiritual situations,
dominance by those that are immature and thinking of themselves and want control over their environment at all
costs, dominance, grabbing the goods, pushing others away. Therefore, even fish cultures evolve with rules and
struggles whether to share or not. We, the Zetas, indeed experienced this, many were war like and had those who
were Mother Theresa, caring for the least of us, fear overcoming during our Awakening process where we
actually murdered those who encountered visitors from other worlds out of fear. This is something that your
society is prone to do also, which is one reason that contactees record their visits only in their subconscious at
this time, to save them from this kind of abuse in their excitement over having had contact. So it is a phenomena
that is a similar theme, to all life forms and all evolving worlds. This is why you can have Star Children, souls
come from elsewhere in the Universe and incarnating into human bodies and feel comfortable and at home and
have a footing. There is of course some adjustment but there is so much commonality that they can function.
ZetaTalk: Zeta Disclosure Project
We didn’t call it by that name but there was suppression of awareness of the visitors that were coming. But not
having a subconscious and a conscious, we were not able to force contact to be only in the subconscious.
Therefore, those who went forward came back talking excitedly about their visits and were murdered. It was less
possible to have a cover-up with a Disclosure Project, more along the lines of punishment if you willingly went
forward for contact.
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ZetaTalk: Variety of Life Forms
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ZetaTalk: Variety of Life Forms
Note: written by Jul 15, 1995.
Our emissary, Nancy, will describe from her hypnotic recall some of the life forms she has been presented with.
Start Nancy's Recall
Greek God
Greek God was presented in the lineup of hominoids. He made Arnold Schwartzeneger look like a 97 pound
weakling. He was wearing a Roman legionnaire's outfit and was attractively proportioned. What a hunk! My
comment to him was, "No wonder they thought you were gods."
Chicken Man
Chicken Man was presented in the lineup of hominoids. He looked just like a flesh-colored chicken without
feathers, but upon close examination I saw there were toes on the feet and fingers on the end of wing-like arms.
There was no beak, just a pointed face. When I asked what his planet was like I was given a telepathic view of a
bleak rocky place. I was told this was a female who was hugging and protective of the next hominoid, a male.
Tiny Man
Tiny Man was presented in the lineup of hominoids. He stood about a foot tall, and was flesh colored with a
rounded head and short limbs. He seemed terribly shy, and when spoken to would titter and look at the floor.
Chicken Man did all the talking.
Horned Toad Man
Horned Toad Man was presented in the lineup of hominoids. He was less than 4 foot tall and wore clothing. His
skin was covered by large humped plates similar in appearance to the top of a turtle shell, but with more
flexibility. When asked, he explained that his home planet was a dry, rocky place. There were two of these, one
smaller than the other, but I failed to ask if they were from different planets or were different sexes.
Broom Stick Man
Broom Stick Man is the very tall and skinny alien from Close Encounters, the one with a small thin head. He
appeared to be in charge of presenting the hominoid lineup. He seemed responsible and sensitive to the varying
discomforts and expectations of the group.
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Little Green Man
Little Green Man was presented in the lineup of hominoids. He was less than 4 foot tall, had a round green face
but thin body, and had splayed fingers from a small round hand. He wore a plain blue outfit.
Slinky Man
Slinky Man was presented in the lineup of hominoids. He was short and appeared to have no neck, wrists, or
ankles - all was one round tubular shape like connected slinkies. He wore an outfit with a high collar and his hair
was clumped and still, black, standing straight up along the back of the head in peaks. I asked about his home
planet but received for an answer this movement. His right leg stretched out to twice its length and landed to the
side, then retracted and came back. He stretched like a slinky, without sign of bones inside. Persevering, I next
got the following motion. His head rose up on a stretching neck 2 feet above the shoulders. His neck didn't get
thin, all just rose up like a slinky.
Broom Stick Man explained telepathically that I had offended Slinky Man, because I hadn't bowed before
talking to him. I bowed deeply from the waist and begged his forgiveness, and got warm, happy vibes from
Slinky Man telepathically. I never did get my question answered. I asked t
he Zetas about him afterwards, and
they explained this race is from a 3rd Density planet, not mature as our planet is not mature. Where we are
violent, they get into a lot of posturing and political chits. The Zetas said "Very tiring."
Swamp Creature
Swamp Creature was presented later, after the presentations of hominoids, where the presentations were moving
to other variations of intelligent creatures. He looked like the Creature from the Black Lagoon except that he was
green, not black. A gentle giant, in and out of the water.
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Octopus Man
Octopus Man had a body and tentacles like an octopus. He was chocolate brown on the outside and cream
colored on the underside of the tentacles. I was delighted to find him very chatty. I asked what his home planet
was like and was telepathically shown a planet of water with only an occasional rock sticking out - very windy
above the water line and inhospitable where the water was warm and inviting. We shook hands at the end, hand
to tentacle. He had a special pink tentacle like a long earthworm that wrapped around my wrist, to improve
communications it seemed. I had no problem with that. It's not the life form, it's the vibes coming from the soul
within that matters.
Bean Bag Man
Introduction to this intelligent alien caused me to faint for the first time in my life. The Zetas dragged me to my
feet and the introduction proceeded. Bean Bag Man has 2 eyes in a broad round head, and a single mouth. Asked
what his home planet was like, I received a telepathic explanation of a green hothouse kind of place. Bean Bag
Man looked like a round green blob with no bones. When I asked what he ate, I got a telepathic view of a bug
like a beetle being crushed. I gave Bean Bag Man a telepathic view and explanation of our custom of shaking
hands, and he extended one of about fifty little claws that fringed around his waist. After a moments hesitation,
