Wilson, Kamar with Interview conducted in the Summit County jail where Wilson is serving eighteen months for possession of narcotics.
I was feeling pretty drunk and I started feeling sorry for this dorky boomer who was just standing over by the wall watching us. I told Denise he looked really sad.
Denise didn't really care. I remember she had a blue caste mark right in the middle of her forehead and it was the kind that glowed under streetlights. When she moved her head it kind of bobbed around. She thought boomers were creeps.
I said he probably had money and ID. But she didn't really care because DC always had money and this other guy, Kamar, he had ID.
I know that boomers already had childhoods and all that, but this guy looked really sad. And maybe he didn't have a childhood. Maybe his mom was an alcoholic and he had to watch his brothers and sisters. Just looking at him I felt like there was this real sadness to him. I don't know why. Maybe because he wasn't being pushy. He sure wasn't like the guy my mom worked for, who was kind of a jerk. He wasn't getting in our faces or anything. Boomers usually hang out with each other, you know?
Then DC sort of noticed him. DC is really kind of crazy, and I was afraid he and Kamar would decide to mess him up or something.
I said something about how I felt sorry for him.
And DC said something like, you want him to be really sorry? Kamar laughed.
I told them to leave him alone. DC is crazy. He'll do anything. Anything anybody does, DC has to be badder.
Interviewer: Tell me about DC.
Emma: DC always had a lot of money, he lived with this guy who was his godfather because his parents were divorced and his mom was really depressed or something and just lay around all the time. His godfather was always giving him anything. Kamar was nineteen and he had a fake phone ID, so he'd order stuff and they'd do a check against his phone ID and then he'd just pick it up and pay for it.
DC did all kind of crazy things. DC and Matt decided they were going to kill a bunch of kids. Just because they were mad. They were going to do a Columbine. So they drank like one of those fifths of Popov vodka, you know the kind I mean? They were going to get guns from some guy Kamar knew, but instead DC just took a baseball bat and started beating on this kid, Kevin, who he really hated.
Interviewer: Why did he hate Kevin?
Emma: I don't know, Kevin was just annoying, you know? He was this dweeby kid who was always bad-mouthing people. He used to get in a fight with this black kid, Stan, at the beginning of every school year. Stan wasn't even that good at fighting, but he'd punch Kevin a couple of times and that would be it until Kevin started badmouthing him the next year. It's like everything Kevin said got on DC's nerves. So DC is totally wasted, driving around with a bunch of kids, and he sees Kevin hanging out in front of Wendy's and he screams, "Stop the car!" and he jumps out with this baseball bat and goes running up to Kevin and swings at him and Kevin raises his arm and gets his arm broken and then some other people haul DC Off.
No, I wasn't there. I heard all about it the next day, though. And Kevin's arm was in a cast. Kevin was real proud of it, actually. He's that kind of a dork.
No, Kevin's parents were going to go to court, but they never did. I don't know why.
No charges were ever filed. Kevin and his parents declined to be interviewed.
Anyway, that's why I was really worried about DC and this boomer. Luckily, Lindsey had a real thing about DC that night and they went off to walk back down to the howling alley to look for this other girl whose parents were gone for the weekend. We were all going to that girl's house for a party.
Interviewer: Where were your parents?
Emma: My parents? They were home. I had to be in by midnight, but if it was a really good party I'd just go home at midnight and my parents would already be in bed, so I'd tell them I was home and then sneak back out through the side door in the basement and go back to the party.
Interviewer: Do you think your parents should have kept closer watch on you?
Emma: No. I mean, they couldn't. I mean, like, Denise has a PDA with a minder. They caught her this one time she went to Rick's in the Flats using Lindsey's sister's ID-
An industry has developed around the arsenal of monitoring devices used to track teenagers, pagers, minders. Snitch packs and chips, as well as the variety tricks of teenagers use to subvert them.
Interviewer: Can you describe a minder?
Emma: It's like a chip or something, and it's supposed to tell your parents where you are. Denise walked into the club and now all the clubs have these things, like, in the door or something that sets off the minder, and then this company calls your home and tells your parents where you are. But Kamar downloaded this program for Denise and put it on her PDA, and when she runs it, it tells her minder that she's somewhere else. Like, she puts my phone number in, and then it tells her minder that she's at my house.
So it was me and Denise and Kamar and this guy, Matt, and Kamar went somewhere ... I don't remember where. Denise starts kidding me about talking to the boomer.
I was kind of drunk by then, and when I got drunk I used to think everything was funny. Oh, yeah, Kamar had gone to look for some other kids we knew, but anyway. We were kind of goofin'. You know? And Denise kept saying that she didn't think I would talk to the guy. So finally I did. I just went up to him and said hi. And he said hi.
Up close he had that kind of funny look that geezers- I mean, boomers do. You know, like their noses and their chins and their ears are too big for their faces or something. I was pretty drunk and I didn't know what to say, so I just starred laughing, because I was kind of nervous and when I'm nervous, sometimes I laugh.
He asked me what I was doing, but nice. Smiling. And I told him, "Talking to you." I thought it was finny.
He said I seemed a little drunk. He said "tipsy" which was funny because it sounded so old-fashioned.
For a minute I thought he might be a cop or something. But then I decided he wasn't because he could have busted us a long time ago, and besides, we weren't doing anything but drinking. So I introduced him to Denise and Matt. He said his name was Terry, which seemed like a real geezer name, you know? He was really nice, though. Quiet.
Interviewer: Do you know any rejuvenated people?
Emma: No, I didn't know any boomers, I mean, not any reju venated ones, except the guy my mom works for, and I don't really know him. My grandmother is going to do it next year but she has to wait until some kind of stock retirement thing happens.
I think I asked him if he was a cop, but I didn't really mean it. I was laughing because I knew he really wasn't.
He said he was just looking for someone to hang out with.
I asked him why he didn't hang out with other people like him? I mean now it sounds kind of rude, but really, it was weird, you know?
He said that they were all old, and he wanted to be young. He didn't want to hang around with a bunch of old people who thought they were young. He said that he hadn't really enjoyed being a kid so he was going to try it again.
That made me think I was right about what I'd thought before about his not having a childhood or something. I liked the idea of his having one now, so I asked if he wanted to go to the party.
Denise thought it was stupid. I could see from her face, but I knew once I explained about the childhood thing she'd feel had for him, too.
He asked where the party was and we told him it was at this girl's house but we needed to wait for DC and Lindsey and Kamar to come back. Then I started worrying about DC.
Then he said he'd go get beer, which was the coolest thing, because that would convince a lot of people he was okay. He asked us what kind of beer we wanted.
Denise really liked that lemon beer, what's it called, squash, so we told him to get that. He got in this all-gasoline car- really nice. No batteries, a real muscle car like a Mercury or something. I told Denise my theory about him not having a childhood.
She was worried DC mi
ght be crazy but I thought that if Terry had beer, DC wouldn't care. Denise kept saying that DC was going to he really cranked.
Matt kept saying DC wouldn't care if Terry had beer, but I was getting really nervous about DC, because if he decided he wanted to he a pain in the ass- I'm sorry, I shouldn't swear, but that's the way we talk when it's just us. Is that okay?
Well, I was afraid DC would be a pain in the ass, just because you never know with DC. I was kind of hoping maybe Kamar and DC and Lindsey would get back before the geezer did so we could just go on to the party and forget about it. Kamar got back. But then Terry got back before DC and Lindsey.
But when DC and Lindsey got back, DC didn't even pay any attention to Terry. They told us that Brenda had already gone to her house so we all went to the party.
(Music-"Downtown" by Petula Clark.)
So the next time I saw Terry was with Kamar at another party. I was really surprised. just because of the way Kamar was. But he and Terry were like good friends, which I figured really pissed DC off. Kamar liked DC, but part of the reason was because DC always had money, and Terry always had money. Terry was always buying beer and stuff. I thought Terry would ignore me because that's what guys do, they're nice to you one night and ignore you the next. But Terry was really nice and brought me a squash because he thought it was what I liked.
It's Denise that really likes it but I thought it was neat that he remembered.
He hung around with me for a while. He was cute, for a geezer. I bet when he was a kid he was really cute. I just forgot that he was different. He just seemed like a regular kid, only really nice. Then all the sudden I'd look at him and I'd think about how odd he looked, you know, just the way his face was different, and his knuckles were thick. I mean his hands and face were smooth. He told me once that he was self-conscious about it, and that some people, people in movies and stuff, have the cartilage on their nose and chin shaved. After a while though, I got so used to it I didn't even notice it anymore.
So I hung out with him and after a while we started kissing and stuff. He got really turned on, really fast. It was already maybe 10:30 and I was drunk, so we went upstairs and Matt and Lindsey were in the bedroom, so we kind of snuck in. They were on the bed, but we spread out some coats. It's really embarrassing to talk about.
(Music-"Days of Wine and Roses" by Frank Sinatra.)
Emma: Oh my God! I just thought of something. I shouldn't say it.
Interviewer: You don't have to unless you want to.
Emma: You won't put it on tape if I don't want you to, will you: (Laughing.) Oh my God, my face is so red. He was a mushroom.
Interviewer: What?
Emma: You know, a mushroom. I can't believe I'm saying this. He was cut. I don't remember the word for it.
Interviewer: Circumcised?
More than ninety percent of all men born between 1945 and 1963 were circumcised.
Emma: Yeah. I'd never seen a boy like that before. Denise had sex with a guy who was, but I never had before. It was weird. I know my face is so red. I guess you can leave it in. A lot of boomers are circumcised, right?
Oh my God. (Covers face with hands, laughing.) It's such a stupid thing to remember.
(Music-More of "Days of Wine and Roses" by Frank Sinatra, which has been playing underneath this portion of the interview.)
Interviewer: How many people have you had sex with?
Emma: Four. I've had sex with four guys. Yeah, including Terry and Luis.
Interviewer: Do you have any regrets?
Emma: Sure. I wish I hadn't. The antivirals made me sick. I missed almost a month of school that year because every time I had a treatment I'd be sick for three days. And everybody knew why I was missing school, which was so embarrassing. There were seventeen of us who had it.
They think that the antivirals took care of it, and we won't get cancer, but they don't know because it's so new. So I've got to have blood tests and check-ups every year. I hate it because I never thought about being sick before, not really, and now, every time I feel weird, I'm thinking, is it a tumor? Every headache, I'm thinking, is this a brain tumor?
Sometimes I'm so mad, because Terry got to be rejuvenated, he gets like forty extra years, and I may not even get to be old because of him. Most of the time I think the antivirals took care of it, and like my mom says, all the check-ups mean if I ever do get sick, it will get caught a lot faster than it would in another person, so in a way, I might be lucky.
I usually believe that the antivirals did it, but sometimes, like when I'm getting blood drawn, I'm really aware of how I feel and I'm afraid I've got cancer, and right then I don't believe it. I was unlucky enough to have this happen, so why would I be lucky about it working? I know that doesn't make any sense.
Terry and DC were arguing one time. DC was saying that when he was old he wouldn't get rejuvenated. He'd let someone else have a chance. But Terry said he'd change his mind once he got old. And Terry was right. I always thought I wouldn't want to be rejuvenated, but every time I think I'm sick, I really want to live and I don't think I'll feel different when I'm old.
Terry didn't know he had the virus. It wasn't really his fault or anything. But sometimes I still get really mad at him.
That's kind of why I'm doing this. So that maybe someone else won't have to go through what I did.
Interviewer: Have you kept in touch with Terry?
Emma: No. I haven't seen him for three years.
Interviewer: Your parents wanted to file statutory rape charges, didn't they?
Emma: Yeah, but I thought it would be stupid. It wasn't like that.
Interviewer: Why not?
Emma: Statutory rape is stupid. He didn't rape me. He was nice, nicer than a lot of other guys.
Interviewer: But Terry is an adult. Terry is in his seventies.
Emma: I know. But it's not like a guy who looks seventy years old ... It's different. I mean, in a way it's not, I know, but it is, because Terry was sort of being one of us, you know? I mean, he wasn't all that different from Kamar. It would have been statutory rape with Kamar, too, but nobody says anything about that. I didn't sleep with Kamar, but I know a lot of girls who did, and nobody is trying to pin that on Kamar.
They're trying to pin everything else on Kamar. They said he was dealing drugs to us and he was the ringleader, but you can get drugs anywhere. You can get them at school. And he wasn't the ringleader. There wasn't any ringleader. We didn't need to be led to do all those things.
Interviewer: Was Terry one of you?
Emma: Yeah ... no. No. Not really. He wanted to be. I mean, I wish I had known stuff before, I wish I had known not to get involved with Terry and all this stuff- but I wish I could have been a kid longer.
(Music-"The Kids Are All Right" by The Who.)
The last time I saw Terry? It was before I got tested, before anyone knew about the virus. Before all these people said to me, "You're lucky it's not AIDS, then you'd have to take medicine your whole life."
We went together for four months, I think. From November to March because we broke up right after Denise's birthday. We didn't break up really, so much as decide that maybe we should see other people, that we shouldn't get serious. Terry was weird to talk to. I never knew what he was thinking. I knew a little bit about him. He was retired and he'd had some kind of office job. I found out that he hadn't had a rotten childhood, he just hadn't liked it. He said he didn't have many friends and he was too serious before.
Interviewer: Why did you break it off?
Emma: We weren't in sync. He liked all that boomer music, rock and roll and Frank Sinatra and stuff. And we couldn't exactly fall in love, because he was so different.
He was always nice to me afterwards. He wasn't one of those guys who just ignores you.
We were all hanging out at the park next to the library after school. It was the end of the year, school was almost over. Lamar was hanging out with Brenda. He wasn't exactly her boyfriend because she was also hangi
ng out with this other guy named Anthony and one weekend she'd be with Kamar and the next weekend she'd he with Anthony.
Everybody was talking and something Terry said made DC really mad. I don't know what it was. It really surprised me because DC always acted like Terry didn't even exist. When Terry was around, he'd ignore him. When he wasn't around, DC would hang with Kamar. But DC started screaming stuff like, why don't you have any friends! You loser! You fucking loser! You have to hang around with us because you don't have any friends! Well, we don't want you, either! So why don't you just go die!
Terry had this funny look on his face.
A couple of guys pulled DC away and calmed him down. But everyone was looking at Terry, like it was his fault. I don't know why, I mean, he didn't do anything.
That evening I was supposed to stay at Denise's house, for real, not like when I told my mom I would be at Denise's and then went out. So I took my stuff over to her house, and then my brother, who was home from Duke, took us and dropped us off at Pizza Hut so we could get something to eat and then we wandered over to the steps outside the CVS because we saw people hanging out there.
Lindsey was there and she told me that DC was looking for Terry. That DC said he was going to kill Terry. Kamar got arrested, she said. Which meant that there was nobody to calm down DC.
Kamar had gotten arrested before, for shoplifting, but he got probation. But this time he got arrested for possession. Partly it was because Kamar is black.
Everybody was talking about Kamar getting busted and DC going off the deep end.
Lindsey kept saying, "Oh my God." It really got on my nerves. I mean, I knew DC hated Terry. DC just hated Terry. He said Terry was a poser and was just using people.
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