by Nancy Lieder
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ZetaTalk: Scientology
Note: written on Sep 15, 1996
Scientology is not about science, as the name would lead one to believe. This organization is similar to many
organized religions in that it wants to control its subjects, extract money and physical services from them, dictate their thoughts, and require absolute loyalty. It purports to be a religion, for tax purposes and other such benefits that accrue to religious organizations around the world. However, unlike other organized religions it does not point to a deity to be worshipped, and thus is considered by most to be simply a cult. Like cults, Scientology demands loyalty based on the
followers emotional dependence and the leaders desire for complete control over the followers.
Scientology is a cult, but gets away with having an audience among those who don't know the organization or its reputation due to the inclusion of the word science in its name. Move past the name and all relationship to science disappears. It is an unscientific organization. Science implies a thought process, pondering the evidence and testing theories against the results of experiment. Since Scientology denies its members the right to think, instead dictating to them what they should believe, it not only has no relationship to science, it also blocks its members from attempting to follow scientific principles.
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ZetaTalk: Clonaid
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ZetaTalk: Clonaid
Note: written during the Dec 28, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
Cloning, as with the Sheep Dolly, is not difficult. The difficulty is having a 100% success, such that no one can claim an injury has occurred. Childbirth, conception, and having a healthy baby is not guaranteed even under normal
circumstances. However, parents who proceed and have a damaged child normally do not have a right to sue, or
complain, unless clear malpractice by the doctor or hospital occurred. If it is a genetic toss of the dice, then no
complaints are filed. Cloning should, theoretically, produce an offspring identical to the parents, but what if all the DNA does not transfer, or during early development expresses differently because of a different early environment? A
leg not forming, as the nudge to do so is not there, the DNA perfect but the nudge lacking. Thus, cloned human infants are being developed, have been developed, but until the product is certain, no publicity will be forthcoming. Those making the most noise, however, have not, themselves, done this cloning. They are seeking the spotlight, and have secured it, as no court in the land can force them to produce something protected under doctor/patient laws. Before
court orders can ensue, an injury must be produced. Was a law broken? No law for human cloning exists that would
put the claimants in jail, certainly not without proof of their actions. Thus, their strutting on stage is safe.
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ZetaTalk: Bon
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ZetaTalk: Bon
Note: written on Oct 15, 1995
The ancient Chinese had a tradition of worshipping their dead ancestors that went beyond respect and honorable
mention. They ate their dead. This type of cannibalism is not unknown in other cultures, as primitive man has often
concluded that one could ingest the qualities of another - courage, potency, or intelligence. However, the ancient
Chinese did this not to capture qualities but to protect the souls of their ancestors from what they considered to be
preying evil spirits. Their traditions of caring for one another knew no bounds, and failure to partake of the meal was considered gross disrespect. All but the bones were consumed, and these carefully bound and kept in a safe place. Over time this was taken to be, by those who discovered these bundles, an odd burial practice. What has passed forward as
Chinese tradition, unaltered, is the sense that the spirit lives on and can inhabit a body other than the birth body - a walk-in. The foreboding sense that one needs protection from evil spirits is still about, reflected in the curved roofs which are to catch and fling back to the skies any evil spirits dropping down to plague mankind, or so they hoped.
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ZetaTalk: Divine Nectar
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ZetaTalk: Divine Nectar
Note: written by Jul 15, 1995
A falsehood promulgated by Yogis is that they nourish themselves not with the same food and water required by mere
humans whom they would lead, but by the absorption of light energy, called Divine Nectar. This is a falsehood
difficult for the follower to disprove, as to put in place the controls necessary to disprove the proposition, the follower would have to highly insult the master. Do they have a bite to eat in their private quarters, or slip a nibble into their mouths now and then during the day, from under their flowing robes? Who can be certain? There has been no
controlled study on this matter, and the reader can be assured that if humans had even a slight inclination in this
direction that the massive starvation and malnutrition that occurs all over the Earth, without abatement throughout
human history, would have produced at least one human who seemed to thrive without food.
A controlled experiment to disprove the proposition would require that a Yogi master:
be willing to undergo such a test
be placed in an isolated situation where the only input to his system would be the light claimed to nourish
be observed continuously by people who are not the Yogi Master's followers and who therefore do not have
preconceived opinions on the outcome
No such controlled test has ever been done, and for good reasons - the proposition would be disproved.
Why do Yogi Masters purport that this practice works? What's in it for them? India is a country where starvation and
malnutrition are on the rise, and have always been a grim fact of life for all but the privileged classes. The cast systems are rigid, and there is scant hope of escaping. Some Yogis purport that this practice succeeds to give hope to the
pitiful, and some have even convinced themselves that they feel refreshed after basking, but most do so simply to raise their status among their followers. How great is their master? He has mastery over Divine Nectar, or so he says.
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ZetaTalk: Levitate
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ZetaTalk: Levitate
Note: written on Feb 15, 2002
Levitation of objects, and rapid movement of space ships, is largely based on manipulation of gravity. As we have
described in space travel, faster than light, when the Repulsion Force is removed, and there is only attraction, it's a quick kiss! This manipulation of gravity is also evident in our space ships, which not only hover, they have their own center of gravity inside. The occupants can look down to see the surface of Earth overhead, for instance, as Nancy can relay.
Levitation by mankind is a trick. For those who think they are viewing this and feel it cannot be so, we would point out the many ways that trick can be done. Wire or string can be the same color as the backdrop, and thus not seen, or clear in nature for this effect. Likewise, pedestals can be under an object, and as long as the same color or appearance as the backdrop, not seen. In these tricks, there is often distraction at play during the levitation, such that the attention of the audience is drawn away from these areas. There are objects that are passed under the levitated object that break at the point
where they pass by the pedestal or wires, and snap together again. This is because they are magnetized, and solid enough that the break and reattachment can be counted on. All this accompanied by much noise and music and waving
about, as distraction.
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ZetaTalk: Nirvana
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ZetaTalk: Nirvana
Note: written on Aug 15, 1995
What the Christians describe as Heaven has an equivalent in other major
religions and in all human cultures. What is being referred to here is what the
human soul understands, intuitively, awaits. A promise. A possibility. Life in
light form, without pain or hunger or struggle. Love all around. An information
and exploration extravaganza. The Hindus correctly understand that many
lifetimes of practice, many lessons, precede this treasured state. They also
describe reincarnation, and backsliding during incarnations, and stages of
spiritual growth with the ultimate, Nirvana, achieved only after much personal
struggle. Of course, those who take a detour by choosing the Service-to-Self
orientation take longer, as after a certain point they cannot proceed in their
growth unless they become willing to focus less on the self.
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ZetaTalk: Ganesh Milk
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ZetaTalk: Ganesh Milk
Note: written on Nov 15, 1995
Blind faith does many things for the holder, including settling arguments between what the eyes perceive and what
faith dictates. These types of arguments arise where the dictates of the faith are tightly bound to survival or security, or where the faith is perceived to offer the only solution to an intractable problem. Thus a child may refuse to
acknowledge the death of a parent until a substitute parent is firmly in place, or the religious, living in poverty, may cling to the notion that their gods are real as thus there is some hope of escaping the grinding poverty. Such a situation arises often in India, where there is both grinding and intractable poverty and a cultural and genetic acceptance of
discrepancy. If two ideas, simultaneously held, conflict, then simply don't line them up together and thus avoid the
conflict. This type of escape requires coconspirators in the family, the workplace, the media, and the government, and in India this is the case. Thus, if the faithful, looking for distraction and longing for a hopeful sign, see what the heart wishes but the eye belies, then blind faith prevails and blind they must be! Did the deity Ganesh drink milk spooned to it, around the world? Hardly, but milk dries to a clear stain, and thus supports this notion of the faithful.
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ZetaTalk: Yogas
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ZetaTalk: Yogas
Note: written on Apr 15, 2002
Yogas, who control their bodies to be able to breath with reduced oxygen use, in closed chambers, buried chambers,
for hours past the point of death in a normal person, or otherwise resist injury by walking over hot coals, are not operating outside their physiology. If they were, then why are there limits on what is reported, or performed? If one
can walk over hot coals, then why not through a firestorm? If breathing less and reducing the metabolism for hours,
then why not weeks? If super-human powers were afoot, then limits would not be in place. Yogas learn, through
dedicated practice, to control their body's reactions, not unlike a warrior resisting pain during battle in order to survive.
Your bodies use of oxygen can take surprising steps, as for instance where a child falls into very cold water and is
apparently dead for an hour or more, then revived as normal. This is an indication of the capacity of the body to reduce its normal reactions. Yogas who walk over coals have, in the first place, callused bare feet that have almost an inch of dead skin, thickened, on the soles. They have analyzed and practiced just how long the food must be on a hot coal, how quickly lifted, and where to place the foot. Blistering does not occur, as live flesh has not been burned. Dead thickened skin peels off, rebuilding underneath, and no one but the Yoga is the wiser.
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ZetaTalk: Jack the Ripper
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ZetaTalk: Jack the Ripper
Note: written on Oct 15, 1996
During the era when Jack the Ripper did his deeds there was much interest in the human organs, their function, and the potential for playing God by piecing a human together, with the best of this or that. DNA and the manner in which its
influence permeates all parts of the body, or the difficulties doctors face when transplanting organs that soon are
rejected by the new host, were unknown to doctors and scientists during that era. That the story of the Frankenstein
Monster arose during that era is indicative of the interest in this subject. Where the story of a living monster, pieced together from body parts harvested from the dead or living, is fiction, the story of attempts to create such a monster is not fiction. There were many Dr. Frankensteins, and as doctors came from the upper classes during that era, they were well connected.
The identity of Jack the Ripper is not known to the public, but was known to the authorities, at least those who made the decision on whether to pursue a line of investigation or the path that investigation was to take. The influence the upper classes has on the police and regulatory agencies is not new, and pressure to look the other way or financial
inducements have always been a facet of human society. The rumor that the perpetrator was royalty was spread to
explain why the authorities had little luck. The common man could comprehend a reluctance to indict royalty, and that
royalty would be able to suppress an investigation.
Jack the Ripper was not one man, but a group of scientists and doctors, actively pursuing in real life what Dr.
Frankenstein was pursuing in fiction. Fresh corpses were routinely delivered to medical schools for autopsy practice
and the training of students, so harvesting fresh organs from the recently deceased was not difficult. However, when
those wishing to play God found that dead organs only resulted in a dead body, they sought living organs. Prostitutes
were easy prey, as they could be relied upon to follow a client into a dark alley, willingly. Being the weaker sex, they also were anticipated to put up less of a struggle. Each failure to create life from dead or dying body parts was
followed by yet another experiment, until the group finally despaired. Were they to have had success, however modest,
Jack the Ripper might be with us still today, as at no time did the group feel any compunction to curtail their activities.
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ZetaTalk: Steve Fossett
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ZetaTalk: Steve Fossett
written October 12, 2007 on the GodlikeProduction live chat, additions on October 4, 2008.
Steve Fossett [Sep 3, 2007] http://www.stevefossett.com/
At 8:45 am, on Monday, September 3, 2007, Fossett took
off in a single-engine Bellanca Super Decathlon airplane
from a private airstrip known as Flying-M Ranch (
38°N, 119°W), near Carson City and the California
border. The airfield is owned by Barron Hilto
n. There
has been no signal from the plane's emergency locator
transmitter (ELT), designed to be automatically activated
in the event of a crash, but of an older type notorious for
failing to operate after a crash. It was at first thought
that Fossett may have also been wearing a Swiss-made
Breitling Emergency watch with a manually operated
ELT having a range of up to 90 miles, but no signal was received from it. He did own such a watch, but
was not wearing it when he took off for the Labor Day flight. Fossett apparently did not file a flight plan,
but was not required to do so. As of September 10, search crews had found eight previously uncharted
crash sites, some decades old, but none related to Fossett's disappearance. On September 7, 2007, Google
Inc. helped the search for the aviator through its connections to contractors that provide satellite imagery
for its Google Earth software. Richard Branson, Fossett's British billionaire friend, said he and others
were coordinating efforts with Google to see if any of the high-resolution pictures might include Fossett's
aircraft. [and from another] Hilton Ranch N38 W119. Area 51 N37 W115.
The mangled debris of Fossett's single-engine Bellanca was spotted from the air late Wednesday [Oct 1,
2008] near the town of Mammoth Lakes and was identified by its tail number. The rugged area, situated
about 65 miles from the ranch, had been flown over 19 times by the California Civil Air Patrol during the
initial search. [and from another] http://onthescene.blogs.foxnews.com/author/adamhousley/ In the mountains off trail above Mammoth Lakes California near the area of Minaret Lake and Minaret Mine.
Apparently the man came across what appeared to be some papers lying in a remote path. Tattered and
crumpled on the ground, the Mammoth Lakes local found what appears to be two FAA cards that listed
the name Steve Fossett, both were apparently either issued or had some sort of connection to the State of
