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communications capabilities to know what the rest of the world was experiencing. The Oahspe describes pole shifts
accurately, and Mother Shipton has placed her warning with great detail. There are also many valid channeled works
which avoid mention of the shift, due to the propensity of the entities channeled or the channel itself. Some simply
cannot bear to be the bearers of bad tiding.
Regarding the Bible's mention, in Revelation, of the mark in the forehead, related to those who would be saved. This is
often interpreted to mean those of faith, who follow the rules put forth by their Christian leadership. Following rules,
as we have stated repeatedly, is not the same as being a Service-to-Other individual. The mark referred to is an
implant, to be put into the bodies of those in the Service-to-Other orientation who have accepted the offer of assistance
during the hour of the shift. Implants as we have stated, are locating devices, to expedite the process during that
hurried time. There is also confusion about 3 days of darkness, versus the week of rotation stoppage we have predicted.
Why 3 days? A human in shock, experiencing stoppage without knowledge of why this is occurring, will have some
delays in their sensory intake. Lack of sleep will mean that a night has not passed, and anxious people do not sleep
well. Thus, a week has been compressed, in general understanding of the human ability to measure time when the sun
does not rise or set, to be 3 days. That 3 days, not 7, appears in so many prophecies is an indication that many groups,
visiting Earth and wishing to help mankind during this time, talk to each other and share their interpretations!
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ZetaTalk: Differing Prophecies
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ZetaTalk: Differing Prophecies
Note: written on Oct 15, 1996. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
Invariably, prophecies about the millennium or pending geological changes are laid alongside each other with the
differences raised up and demands for reconciliation made.
Like the famous story about the blind men all feeling a different part of the elephant, some differences are due to
segregation, but most are due either to the prophet being misunderstood or the prophet misunderstanding what it is
they have been told. If you had never experienced an eclipse of the Sun but had been advised that one would occur, the
message may be interpreted as a day when the Sun would hide, when the Sun and Moon would do battle, when night
would come early, when there would be a short day or two short days, or a very short night - but all these statements
would be referring to the same pending eclipse. Just so, when a prophecy states that land will go under the sea and
another states that the land will rise from the sea, these prophecies are not in conflict with each other, as both situations
will occur.
ZetaTalk, being exacting and specific, comes in for a lot of heat where it differs from other prophecies.
The given date of 2003 [Note: see 2003 Date explanation] does not line up with what some have interpreted the Mayan
calendar to read, and we, the Zetas, are asked to explain this. We are correct in our date as it is based on the
steady pace and known placement of the 12th Planet, and we are not mistaken. Some have interpreted
prophecies that state that cataclysms will occur when the millennium ends to mean the exact last day of 1999, or
perhaps some where within the year 2,000 but not thereafter. They wish precision, and demand that we reconcile
our dates with every other date speculated by anyone who calls themselves a prophet or claims to have insight
into what ancient prophecies might have meant.
Some valid prophecies have stated that this land or that will appear as islands only, being inundated, and many
have interpreted this to mean that the land will either sink under the sea or the oceans rise inordinately. The
Edgar Cayce vision of California appearing as islands, having been inundated, is not in conflict with the
ZetaTalk statement that the West Coast will rise up due to forceful subduction of plates to the west of the land.
One has only to look at the geography of California to see that the fertile inland valley was recently an inland
sea, due to the surrounding mountains holding the water as a bowl, so that the ZetaTalk prediction of massive
and forceful tidal waves, rising hundreds of feet high to clear the mountains when they have no where else to go,
will re-flood the inland sea once again and that drainage will take some time.
Among the valid prophets, Edgar Cayce has stated a vision that lands will appear in the Caribbean, where
ZetaTalk has pointed to an area off Antarctica. Is Cayce incorrect? Yes and no. Insofar as he was seeing the
immediate effect of the pole shift on the land, with the Atlantic widening so that there is temporarily less water
to rise up on the shores - the vision is correct. Cayce was also reporting the immediate effect of the pole shift on
California.
We, in ZetaTalk, are giving all pieces of the puzzle, step by step, and stand here to respond to questions on these
matters to defend our prior responses. Are the others doing the same?
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ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live
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ZetaTalk: Future Maps
written February 25, 2010
Why do so many future maps show the western portion of the United States submerged or assaulted by
water? The Zetas have this in a state of mountain building, albeit with high tides during the hour of the
shift, but not with Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, etc submerged. This flooding of the west coast appears in
Lori Toye's 1983 channeled map, the first to be widely published. Then in Scallion's map representing his
vision, Chet Snow's map representing the hypnosis of hundreds, and the Dolores Cannon map also
representing hypnosis of many. They have the west coast going down, apparently, the reverse of what the
Zetas tell us will happen other than that the inland valley's of California will be flooded for weeks due to
water being trapped by the sloshing over the coastal mountains. Only the 1950 map by Pitre show the
mountain regions above water, in concurrence with the Zeta message.
The collective conscious, which is very real and the result of telepathic communication between a vast number of
individuals, can be very influential. If the information is wrong, it nonetheless spreads about. Thus, during the last
years of the Bush administration, there was broad consensus from the Webbots analysis of the collective conscious that
Israel would start a war with Iran, or that war with Iran was imminent and inevitable. We stated this would not occur,
because we were aware of the counter pressure being applied behind the scenes, but the common man, reading the
news, reading the constant drumb beat that the Bush administration was putting out, would assume that bombing of
Iran was imminent and inevitable.
Much channeled work, even though genuine, is subject to being polluted by the process. It involves what the spirit
communicating wishes to say, what the human channel understands the message to be, and any inability or prejudice
in the human channel which might pollute the process. The West Coast of the US is subject to a lot of tidal sloshing
during the pole sh
ift, with tidal bore during this sloshing, but clearly would not be put under water at higher altitudes
which will, if anything, increase in height. Likewise sloshing up the Colorado River, combined with the breaking of the
Hoover Dam, will put Phoenix under water, as we have detailed. That combined with violent earthquakes and volcanic
activity along the San Andreas, and the rock and roll that will occur all along the zone subject to subduction of one
plate under another, would lead a human to assume that the western portion of the US would be inundated or
essentially dangerous for human habitation.
ZetaTalk does not involve a single channeled session or a series of sessions, it involves almost continuous telepathic
communication over decades on these subjects. The issues are revisited, and cross-correlated, by the logical mind of a
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woman with a German heritage, highly intelligent and given to question anything that does not make sense or correlate
with the facts. Thus the ZetaTalk message is more reliable. The Lori Toye map, as the first published and much
discussed on major media, is an example of the collective conscious being polluted by an incorrect interpretation.
Lori Toye's channeling [and from another] http://www.iamamerica.com/ Much has changed since 1989
when Lori Toye and her children first rolled I AM America Maps at the kitchen table. Since her
extraordinary dream of the Map in 1983, the Ascended Masters' prophetic message of change has been
featured on NBC, FOX, UPN, The New York Times, Art Bell and London's Carolton Television. [and from
another] http://www.iamamerica.com/pages/lori_toye.html Awakened one night by the luminous figure of
Saint Germain at the foot of her bed, her work had begun. Later in the same year, an image of a map
appeared in her dream. Four teachers clad in white robes were present, pointing out earth changes that
would shape the future United States. The four Beings appeared again, and expressed a willingness to
share the information. Over a six-month period, they gave over 80 sessions of material, including detailed
information that would later become the I AM America Map. She produced the map in 1989, rolled them
on her kitchen table, and sold them through word-of-mouth. She then launched a lecture tour of the
Northwest and California. Hers was the first Earth Changes Map published, and many others have
followed, but the rest is history.
Gordon Michael Scallion's vision [and from another] http://www.matrixinstitute.com Gordon Michael
Scallion is a futurist, metaphysical speaker and author of Notes from the Cosmos. He is the creator of the
Future Maps series.
Chet Snow's compilation http://www.chetsnow.com/ from the book Mass Dreams of the Future, via
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hypnosis of hundreds of individuals.
Dolores Cannon's compilation from hypnosis of others [and from another] http://www.ozarkmt.com/
Dolores Cannon is a past-life regressionist and hypnotherapist who specializes in the recovery and
cataloging of "Lost Knowledge". Working through several different subjects, Dolores was able to establish
communication with the living Michel De Notredame, better known as the prophet, Nostradamus. His
revelations and their impact on our own time are both fascinating and at times frightening.
Ashton Pitre's channeling since the 1950's. [and from another] http://www.baproducts.com/ashton.htm
This is how Ashton Pitre, of Marble Falls, Texas, sees the US after the Earth changes. He shows
"Primary" and "Secondary" destruction caused by water between the years of 1995-1999.
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ZetaTalk: Lost Records
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ZetaTalk: Lost Records
Note: written on Sep 15, 1999.
The Mayan Calendar is real, and is pointing to the coming cataclysms. But unfortunately, through all the many hands
that it passed, and because of the breaches in its caretakers, certain key points were lost - primarily, when did it start.
This is an example of the lost records that occur following the periodic cataclysms the Earth experiences. The Mayan
Calendar is correct and accurate, but just exactly what year does the count start? They are off on that count, and
therefore it lands almost a decade further in the future than it ought to.
During cataclysms, and for many hundreds of years following, people become terribly discombobulated. Look what
happened to the Egyptian records after the last pole shift. The Jewish Exodus occurred, with the Jews able to leave
their slavehood taking their old, their lame, and their babes in arms with them. They escaped, one and all from their
captors, not because they were all that swift, but because their captors were very distracted. The hail, the insects
disturbed by the groaning in the Earth and running in every direction, the volcanic eruptions, the earthquakes, and the
fact that they were experiencing a very long day, the Sun quite noticeably slowed in its progression across the sky - all
this distracted the Egyptians. After the last cataclysms, the very careful Egyptian records which kept census, the grain
stores which maintained the rich - all this went to Hell. And for centuries afterwards, people lost track of just how
many years passed until records began to be kept again. This happened all over the world, during each cataclysm.
What happened to the great cities of China? Records are disrupted.
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ZetaTalk: Calendars and Clocks
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ZetaTalk: Calendars and Clocks
Note: written on Jul 15, 2001 during the sci.astro debates.
After a pole shift, several things change, making the past time pieces and calendars virtually worthless. The geographic
poles change, the rate of rotation may change, and the magnetic poles change. It has occurred, as Plato recorded, that
the rotation of the Earth reverses and goes West to East, between pole shifts. All the old counters stopped, of course,
when the rotation of the earth froze prior to the shift. When rotation restarts after the passage of Planet X, several new
variables are in place. Survivors find themselves in a new climate, warmer or colder, more humid or dry, with the
vegetation in place struggling and wildlife on the move. The Sun rises and sets in a strange place. The clouds are closer
to the ground, drizzle often seeming to be incessant, so peering at the stars is difficult and most certainly not the
preeminent concern of starving survivors.
By the time, several decades later, that the skies clear and sunshine returns edible vegetation and meat on the hoof to
be killed for dinner, the old means of time-keeping by the stars has often been lost. Pole shifts cause injuries, and lack
of nutrition is hard on the elderly. The young and hungry, especially those born after a shift who have little regard for
the knowledge carried by those from an earlier time, refuse food to seemingly befuddled old men who talk of times
long past. Knowledge is lost, civilizations abandoned for more immediate needs, and even the need for time pieces and
calendars the last of anyone's concerns. If planting is not being done, or appointments are not being made, and the only
thought the direction of o
ne's wanderings toward a better source of food - then why are time pieces and calendars
important?
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ZetaTalk: Emotional Adjustments
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ZetaTalk: Emotional Adjustments
Note: written on Feb 15, 1996.
Denial is a common reaction to learning that the world you know, which you as a child had always considered would
be secure, is going to essentially disappear. Denial protects one from having to incorporate what has been learned into
one's life. One can treat the news like a thing apart, like a possibility, similar to a meteor landing on your head or being
struck by lightning. Remote. For those who do not duck the issues, there is an adjustment period. One looks around,
seeing the sunny day, the smiling faces, the usual empty chatter on the newscasts, and no longer feels one can relate to
this. Yet all the loved ones are living in this world. Should one leave them? Should one fit into their life, and pretend?
The terrible future one contemplates stares at one from afar, but each day draws closer. How to make major
adjustments to prepare for this, when any preparation is considered insanity, or desertion, or neglect.
During the period when choices are made, and adjustments are being made in one's life, depression can set in. This is
true of any double-bind, where one loses either way, but in the situation of the alien issue and the coming pole shift,
who can one talk to? One is an outcast. Those who have few attachments and are free to move about, in their physical
surrounding or career or family commitments, are the lucky ones, as they make their adjustments fairly rapidly,
moving to a clear headed time of resolve. Those with many commitments, or commitments deeply felt, agonize longer
while making the switch. After they have disconnected themselves from any expectation that life for them can be
normal, as they know terrible things that the others have yet to understand, they can be at peace.
