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a sense of being on a higher elevation, less air pressure, but you will be so preoccupied that you won't notice. The
oxygen availability will also not create any more problems than the average city presents to you, due to pollution.
Soon, within years, less than a decade, the oxygen will be replenished due to ocean kelp and the like. As we have
stated, if you are not utterly out in the open, in a semi-enclosed environment, during the shift, you will not suffocate.
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ZetaTalk: Seasons Shift
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ZetaTalk: Seasons Shift
Note: written during the Nov 2, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
The shift will find the seasons already in disarray. The weathers in the months leading up to the shift will be a
continuation, but in a more extreme way, of the current weather irregularities. Winters have been interrupted with
warm spells that have caused crops to sprout and bud, then freeze again when winter returns. Summers have been too
wet, with more rain in heavier deluges so the crops drown, then followed by dry spells that bake whatever manages to
grow. Plants struggle along, with these mixed signals, in general not dying so much as failing to produce the produce
the farmers had anticipated. Animals likewise are confused, mating seasons off schedule and flight patterns of birds
such that they lose their way during annual migrations. Ocean life is arriving in latitudes not usual, the local life often
dying or moving on, but this does not so much spell death in the species as some decimation. However, at the shift,
these changes will become extreme, so that vegetation and animal life, in the skies and seas, will become decimated to
the point that many will become extinct. Such devastation occurred to the hardy Mammoth, which found itself in the
Arctic, and could not find its way back in time to survive. What will human survivors find, at the shift?
Where extreme cold is descending, the answer is obvious. The Bulge of Brazil will freeze, snow steadily falling,
and no vegetation or animal life indigenous to the area will survive.
Areas now tropical, along the Equator, which move into temperate zones, will experience shock. Where the
temperature change is not severe enough to kill the species, the plants and in particular the animal life will
migrate toward the warmth.
Likewise, where temperate species find themselves in tropical areas, they simply do better along the edges of the
temperate zone, and migrate by virtue of surviving there, propagating there.
Oceans and winds carry seeds, and oceans carry fish to zones more in keeping with their biology, and thus are
great disseminators.
Most of the world will be wetter, under continuous drizzle, so deserts will not descend as much as the opposite,
mold and lack of sunlight affecting the vegetation, and lack of food weakening the animal life.
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ZetaTalk: Restart Gardens
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ZetaTalk: Restart Gardens
Note: written during the Nov 2, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
Human survivors should anticipate the shock of season change in accordance with their pre position and anticipated
post position. Crops already in the ground may produce in the Aftertime climate if close enough to what they expect,
and if pollination has already occurred. However, this should not be counted on, as the number of variables is higher
than man allows for. Most crops will sicken and fail to produce, regardless of man's expectations. The guidelines for
Aftertime planning should be:
1. Wait until after the shift to start new gardens.
2. Plant a test garden, and only when you can grow seed from the plants should you plant for food. If you can't
produce seed, the plants too sickly to mature or the insects not viable to pollinate, then you will eventually waste
all your seed.
3. Flocks and herds can be observed, and managed accordingly. Chickens will eat bugs, relish them, and ducks and
geese nibble on plants along the waters edge. If this survive, and propagate, then lean in this direction in your
plans.
4. Anticipate gardens and crops outside of what is usual for your area, in a wider range, so that disappointments in
plants that fail to thrive in the new climate can be replaced with surprises.
There are variables mankind does not normally consider that will be affecting life after the shift, such that an assumed
plant or animal life would falter and simply die off, and others flourish. These variables have been present in the past,
in your ancestors, when they migrated to new lands, but are not usually passed down to offspring. An immigrant to a
new land would bring seed, perhaps even a pair of prized livestock, and find even with the latitude and seasons similar
to the home land, all die. Local fauna and flora, bacteria, rodents, affects the immigrants, though often unseen by the
humans with high hopes. Thus, the failure is a disappointment but the reasons for failure not grasped. In like manner,
because of factors like acidity of rain, weather shock in insects or even bacteria in the soil, even plants and animals
familiar to an area may succumb, and die off. Opportunistic germs today are affecting the biology of the world, such
that pre-existing illness is causing animal life to sicken. Germs are migrating, infecting in areas not usual, and the
immune systems of the affected lowered by the weather extremes and roiling emanations from the Earth's core.
Thus, in addition to the predictable climate you will shift into, you should anticipate failure in restarting your gardens
and herds and flocks. The best plan is a broad plan, so that a failure does not devastate.
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ZetaTalk: Safe Places
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ZetaTalk: Safe Places
Note: written prior to July 15, 1995
There are many places on Earth that will be safer than others. Common sense can guide. If one reads the literature on
past geological changes, and written and spoken records on what occurred during past cataclysms, one can plot their
course. Coast lines are dangerous, as the tidal waves will be immense. Subducting plates or areas close to building
mountains will be at risk. Buildings subject to earthquake damage should be avoided, and best of all is the least
amount of structure, as in tents or straw huts. Natural windbreaks are available, as valleys between hills.
Areas subjected to mountain building in the recent past can be anticipated to be the subject of mountain building
again during the coming pole shift. This includes the Rockies west of the Continental Divide, as when the
Pacific shortens, the subducting plate tucking under the west coast will not only create great heaving and shifting
in those surface areas above the subducting plate, it will also cause the Earth to heat up due to the friction.
Likewise in the Himalayas, but the mountains in Europe will not be any less safe than elsewhere in Europe, as
the Atlantic will yaw and tend to pull Europe down in elevation. Thus, the mountains in Europe may be safer
than the lowlands which are subject to tidal influx. The spine of mountains running the length of South America
is also highly subject to trauma during
pole shifts, in like manner to the Rockies. Here again the land west of the
Continental Divide is the worst hit.
In both the Americas the land east of the Continental Divide tends to go for a ride across the plains to the east.
Heat from friction is a factor here, but heat from compression is not present. The heat from friction is also closer
to the surface and dissipates faster than heat generated from lower plate friction where the heat builds until it
can actually melt surface rock.
Needless to say, caverns or man-made tunnels in traumatized mountain areas will not be safe. One need only
visit Yosemite park to see the forces that will be at play. The valley 2,000 feet below the surrounding cliffs,
standing as a statement to the shearing force that took place in solid rock in the past. Will caverns and man-
made tunnels in older mountains be safe? Yes and no, as in each case the structure of the mountainous area and
in particular the stability of the cavern or tunnel ceiling must be analyzed. Each case stands alone. As humans
run the risk of being trapped or crushed and could expect no rescue help afterwards, this option is far less safe
than other options.
Water softens the blows both from the jolts of earthquakes and, if one is underwater, from flying debris.
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However, water will carry one with it, and the swimmer or submarine may find themselves hundreds of miles
inland when a tidal wave recedes, or far from any shore.
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ZetaTalk: Safe Structures
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ZetaTalk: Safe Structures
Note: written on Aug 15, 1995
In past cataclysms, faced with high winds and hailstones, many sought shelter in caves or caverns. This as often
brought death as salvation, as these hollow places were formed during mountain building in the past, so seeking shelter
in them is equivalent to trying to avoid traffic by standing in the middle of a busy highway. Subterranean cavities that
are safe are not open to the surface, which in and of itself indicate frailty in the surrounding rock strata. Subterranean
cavities that would be safe are so deep and thickly surrounded by rock that they are essentially a bubble in a slab of
granite. Underground structures, such as the one constructed by the government at Mount Weather, are insufficient to
withstand the violent compression that will occur during 15 Richter point earthquakes.
Note: inset written during the Dec 28, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
Mankind visits caves, which show their age in the slow accumulation of drip-fed rock, and think
underground caverns safe. At the same time, man-made mines collapse or fill with water, with horror
stories of miners buried alive. There are caves in rock that last eons, and mines that man made that
likewise hold up, but compared to the risks of aboveground shelters during the shift, they are high risk.
Mankind has little experience with Richter 9 force quakes, with only projection on what the Richter on
famous quakes such as the 1906 San Francisco quake were. Dramatic rock shattering, such as was
required to drive raw rock at a slant, skyward, during prior shifts, is not in the memory of man. Caverns
available then, for man to crawl into, which closed and trapped whatever crawled there, are lost to man.
On occasion, he digs bones frozen in what was formerly mud, a volcanic flow or river bed. How the
animals died is conjecture. If human bones are found in caverns, it is assumed they died of disease, not
entrapment.
If the force of a shift, in the recent past, has driven mountains over the plains in the US West, rumpled the
foothills of the Sierras, heaved the Himalayas higher, and melted rock with subduction, then why line of
thinking allows this rock to remain firm and undisturbed just because it is the wall of a cavern? It is not
immune from what is happening during mountain building, during the shift: shattering rock, rapid
sideways motions, flaking and separating, and snapping. In heartland’s, where mountain building may not
be occurring, there are rocks and caves which are assumed not to be affected. But stretching, growing
rifts, can likewise create collapse. Thus, to avoid being buried alive, crushed, do not be underground
during the shift. Allow yourself access to the open air.
Cities will not be safe. During these coming times, most of the cities, most of your existing structures, will crumble,
even if they are retrofitted. The types of quakes and shocks will be unexpected, and will find the weak link in the way
these building have been constructed. Beyond collapsing buildings that will be virtual death traps, gas lines and oil and
gasoline storage will be in flames, and the whole place likely to become an inferno. A building awry, cracking,
tipping, ready to crumble, is not a safe place to live in and they will be abandoned, and eventually will crumble due to
the weather. During violent earthquakes, those humans who survived were surrounded by the least structure. Those
who live in light housing will find that they survive, not crushed by their dwelling, but will be temporarily without
housing. Where the weather is temperate, this can be dealt with. Temporary structures can be built from trash, dug into
the hillside, and bermed structures are warm, insulated by the Earth. Those who survive and are resourceful will find
that they may not be living with the standard of living that they had before, but they are snug.
So, if one cannot huddle in buildings or caves and the winds are of hurricane force, what to do? Valleys between
sheltering hills protect from winds to some degree, but give no shelter from firestorms or hailstones. In looking at
stable structures like shipping containers, well braced and ready to handle a great deal of weight, of course they will
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resist as long as they don't have a rock slide or something like that attacking their structure, and as long as the
container is well secured so that the occupants don't get tossed around or rolled in high winds or a rumbling rolling
earth. There will be a great many aftershocks as well as the major shocks of the pole shift, times when the plates of the
Earth are going to be settling for some time.
The single structure that resists tearing away in hurricane force winds and can withstand the magnitude of earthquakes
expected is a continuous oval, partly laid into the earth. Domed Structures give the least resistance to winds, and where
the dome is continuous, provides a shape most resistance to earthquake damage. Wind sweeps over but does not lift
this, and the sharp jolt of an earthquake will not crack a continuous form. An oval with a bit of a plate shape on the
bottom will also settle into its pre-quake position under the jiggling influence of after shocks, readjusting itself on lose
earth after a quake such that one does not find the house at a tilt for long. Made of Metal, such a structure also protects
from fire and hailstones. It may be a radical theory, but an oval of this nature can make a nice ceiling, a pleasant place
to be indoors when indoor living and indoor gardening is going to be a necessity. Many Service-to-Other groups are
working on such structures, in preparation for the coming cataclysms.
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ZetaTalk: Salt Flats
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Note: written on Jun 15, 1997. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
Many factors go into what constitutes a safe place during a pole shift. Mountains may ride over flat land abutting the
mountain range, but if the plates are being pulled apart or sliding past each other, this will not occur. Land is affected
by the plate it rides upon, and if that plate is forced under another, the land may lose sea level and become submerged.
Likewise if the plate is forced to ride atop another under pressure, the land may gain in sea level. All coastal areas will
be subject to sloshing water, but some coastal areas will be the safest due to hot land or violent earthquakes, in which
case going out to sea in boats may be the best chance of survival. Gently rolling hills may afford good protection from
the hurricane force winds, but where the hills are composed of lose soil that will shift unpredictably or slide, it may be
safer out in the open lying flat.
Many contactees have visions about the Salt Flats in the western US, old sea beds pushed high as the west coast of the
US has been pushed up and over plates to the west. Such lake beds will surely be soured by the hurricane winds, and
the hard flat earth does not invite burrows. These lake beds are surrounded by hills and mountains, many with ravines
clearly created when water rushed into the lake beds at some distant point. The land is dry and hard, formed into rock
in most places, and inhospitable. It is permeated with salt, a former ocean bed, and is useless for agriculture. However,
the Salt Flats have one advantage during the coming pole shift - the land will not buckle. The Salt Flats have lasted
over the eons, through various pole shifts as severe as the pending shift, because they are glued to the same plate as the
