by Nancy Lieder
activity, so can hardly be missed. Thus, finding some way to measure high noon, if only via a tube illuminating an
object at the bottom, will be an aid to those wanting that extra day of warning.
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ZetaTalk: Time Differences
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written June 16, 2003
During measuring rotation slowing in the early days of slowing, there will be different reports from different parts of
the world. Latitude matters greatly, as the angle of sunlight is less directly overhead the further from the Equator one
gets. Why would this confuse a direct measure of minutes, from day-to-day, since theoretically the march from dawn
to dusk should be measured, steadily, regardless. The more accurate measure of rotation slowing is close to the
Equator. During the early days of slowing when sunrise and sunset are confused and seeming to occur earlier, a shorter
day while approaching the Summer Solstice in the Northern Hemisphere, and later, a longer day while approaching the
Winter Solstice in the Southern Hemisphere, only the high noon point can be used with any degree of accuracy.
For the same reason, high noon with the sun directly overhead and not at all where the sunlight approaches at a slant,
to Earth, is more accurate. Direct overhead light is more intense, a flood less likely to be bent. A slant is less intense,
has more opportunity to bend as it is going a somewhat further distance, a situation that exists and frankly lingers at
the hours both preceding and receding from high noon. Planet X is close to the Ecliptic and close to the point where it
is between the Earth and the Sun, but is to the right of the Sun. Thus the light is bent toward Planet X before being
bent back, giving the illusion that the Sun itself is to the right, appropriately for the day. For both hemispheres this is
also the case, noon sunlight seeming to arrive from a Sun jogged slightly to where it would normally be, thus
disguising the slowing.
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ZetaTalk: Slowing Confusion
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written June 29, 2003
The establishment has put forth many disguises to prevent any awareness of Planet X as it floats toward the Earth just
under the Ecliptic. NASA and their many arms in the scientific and academic community, the Navy's master time and
calendar keeper, both working together in this deceit, have arranged to use the Sun as an excuse for fluctuations in the
magnetic field, an increase in earthquakes, weather variances, problems with satellites, and atmospheric conditions. Its
all the Sun, an object only those with access to the SOHO satellite imagery can examine, as their prime excuse. They
measure the Sun's emissions, they proffer images, and they interpret and predict based on the date they supposedly
have in their databanks. When a single source controls the equipment used to secure data, and releases only the data
and images they wish the public to see, there can be no confidence in the result. Is the Sun blasting forth more rays,
affecting the Earth's magnetism and causing earthquakes and causing the Sun to seem extraordinarily bright? No, nor
is there any evidence that it has ever caused magnetic or earthquake disturbances in the past. Doctored images, seldom
released, had been the mode up until recently, when it was decided to disable the SOHO almost entirely to prevent
leaks. Images not intended for public view were being released, most due to exhaustion and decimation in the ranks of
those tasked with utter precision in their image doctoring, but on occasion a deliberate leak from someone enraged at
the treatment of the common man, who is to be kept ignorant of the danger approaching them.
Thus, a certain segment of the populace think that Solar Flares are the cause of the very bright Sun, causing gardens
and crops to mature more rapidly, causing inordinate sunburns and tans, and creating flares in cameras never before
experienced. And when photos of Planet X, secured from around the world and even via public webcams are accused
of being doctored of composed of lens flares, how is the common man, wanting not to disrupt their daily life until is it
clear that Planet X is about to devastate the Earth per our predictions, to proceed? By understanding what measuring
devices are controlled by the establishment, so that they can rely only on those devices that are accurate determiners.
Leap Minutes
As has been noted by dedicated Troubled Times members, the Navy preset their Moon calendars in 1994 to
prevent detection of slowing rotation via out-of-synch moon phases. Should any old calendars generated before
1994 be at hand, this could easily be determined. Since the Navy controls the atomic clocks, they and only they
pronounce what time it is, and do so by updating automatically most PCs that go online, watches and clocks that
check in regularly via radio to synch up with the master clock, and computer networks. Manual clocks are
assumed to be set wrong or broken or in need of a new battery. Where going into 2003 the rate of slowing was
perhaps a second per day, it has become more like a minute or two a day. How does this affect measuring the
slowing rotation of the Earth? Anyone checking with an atomic clock will find no slowing, and anyone checking
with a manual clock will find that their findings are argued endlessly by others who have no patience for
complicated conspiracy theories. Thus, among those who have learned of the Planet X approach, a certain
segment have not determined that slowing has started, because they are allowing the Navy to adjust the clocks
they use.
Sunrise/Sunset Times
How does one determine that a sunset or sunrise is on time? Check in, once again, with the Navy, who maintain
vast charts by city and day, presumably generated up to a year in advance. Once again, the Navy is in control of
the data that goes into the generation of these charts, and once again they are solely in control of publication of
this data. As with information on solar flares and emissions, in this setting no integrity can be presumed. Navy
charts are used by TV networks and newspaper chains to publish the expected sunrise or sunset times. As with
observatories, which the establishment controls by selecting which scientists will be allowed to use the expensive
equipment, and by a National Security Oath required of those operating this equipment due to the likelihood of
UFO's or missiles being sighted and the need to keep public panic down, those in the know when sunrise or
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ZetaTalk: Slowing Confusion
sunset times are adjusted are mum. Should an old chart emerge, anyone making a fuss is accused of fraud, and
the matter is dropped. Thus, a large percentage of the public watching for a late sunset or sunrise is mislead,
because they have checked in with the Navy, once again.
Star Charts
The moment when the Solstice, or Equinox, is determined is done so via a long tube at a fixed place on the
Earth, looking at the Stars. When a particular guiding star is precisely overhead, then the seasonal passage is
determined. Can the general public use this method to determine a slowing rotation? Hardly. Clear skies are
required, a broad knowledge of the stars so that knowing just which stars are steady and which seemingly
change position b
ased on the Earth's motion is required, and any change in minutes using such a method would
not show up unless the tube were so narrow as to make operating it difficult. Thus, the odds are against such a
method being used to determine slowing despite an altered clock or altered sunrise/sunset times. Until slowing
by hours occurs, the anticipated constellation overhead will not be a clue. Thus, a public determined to measure
slowing outside of the information sources provided by the Navy, the time of day and the sunrise/sunset times,
by checking against the stars, will find themselves stymied.
Daily Variances
Since the stage has been set, the Atlantic Rift magnetized so that it is loath to leave Planet X when facing it,
would there be steady slowdown in rotation? Planet X grabs the Atlantic Rift, holding back rotation of the crust
momentarily so that a pileup occurs in the forward momentum of the crust, agascerbating the compression zone
around the Pacific Rim so that Global Quakes begin there and spread forward to the Atlantic Rift which is held,
momentarily, from continuing to rotate. At the same time, as tension is relieved in the Pacific Rim, the stretch
zone east of the Atlantic Rift can be pulled forward, causing minor adjustments in the crust there. What happens
to the Atlantic Rift as it proceeds to disappear round to the dark side of the Earth? It is tugged back, creating a
late sunset or sunrise for those in a position to take a measure at that time, but by the same token when the
Atlantic Rift emerges from the dark side and is tugged forward by Planet X, it gains momentum, thus confusing
the situation. Thus, those taking daily measures may find a late sunset and sunrise but not finding a correlation
in a late noon, and assume no slowdown when the precursor has started, a strong grab of the Rift!
Latitude/Hemisphere Differences
Until Planet X, in its approach, comes near enough to the Earth to be discerned as a separate entity from the
Sun, it will confuse the slowing rotation issue by adding its reflected and generated light to the Sun's. Being just
below the Ecliptic, for those in both hemispheres, Planet X makes the Sun appear to be further south. Where
during its rise to the Ecliptic, it pushed light rays from the Sun away by a broadside of gravity particles, and
later pulled the Sun's light rays toward it as it moved closer and was a greater gravity draw, now that it floats
just under the Ecliptic, the confusion is due to it seeming to be the Sun. For those in the Southern Hemisphere,
sunlight thus comes early and lingers later, as Planet X is in view when the Sun is not, being south of the Ecliptic
and coming from a Southern Constellation. For those in the Northern Hemisphere only those close to the
Equator will get this effect. Thus, statistics from varying latitudes or hemisphere will differ, creating a climate of
doubt.
What should those determined to get an early measure of slowing rotation do, in the face of this confusion? Use a
manual clock, not one set behind the scenes by the Navy. Avoid published sunrise and sunset times that are data
secured from the Navy. Make a marker to determine high noon and sunset and sunrise times, and keep daily records.
Do not be discouraged by a day when variances occur, as even the weather and particles in the atmosphere can
interfere with light direction. You will find your personal daily measures beginning to show slowing outside of the
slight changes expected for the seasons, day to day. You will get personal confirmation that several minutes a day are
being lost, in increasing increments. You can measure the rate of increase, and project when this will become hours a
day, anticipating the rapid slowdown to a stop that spells problems with travel or escape to safe locations.
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ZetaTalk: Slowing Determination
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written Oct 14, 2003, during Lou Gentile live radio
The Zetas stated that there will be a late sunrise followed by a late sunset, the next day perhaps sunset 2 hours late
and then within 36 hours you have rotation stopping. We’ve been checking Slowing since June 13th and we advise
people to set a noon marker because that alters the least when you go through the seasons. Right not in the Northern
Hemisphere the days are shortening, but they are shortening at the beginning and the end and the noon marker
basically has very little motion. What we’ve found is that we have the globe increasing rotation, I call it rotational
surging, where the Atlantic Rift is gripped by Planet X, has been for a couple months now. When it comes around on
the Dawn side, as the globe is turning, Planet X grabs it and pulls the crust toward it. Then it is at the Face point,
it’s facing, and it wants it to stay there because our Atlantic Rift is a type of magnet and it wants it lined up with the
core. As it tried to move around and continue and go round the side at the Dusk it pulls it back. So we’ve got a guy
in central Siberia who reports that his noon is 61 minutes early, our timekeeper in Virginia says its a minute late or a minute early, we move across the continent and we’re getting about 20 minutes late in Wisconsin and Missouri,
and go over more toward the West Coast and they’re 76 minutes late. So how is someone going to determine that 2
hour late sundown?
Nancy
In this regard we are looking for the change, the rapid change for any given timekeeper. Those who have been using
manual clocks have noted that we are already 15, 20, 25 minutes late, depending on their notes, slower, the atomic
clock clicking along and changing so that this is not apparent to people who are looking at their clocks and the
constellations overhead and the like. But this is just due to a very gradual slowing of the Earth, the difference between
atomic and manual clocks, manual clocks being what the real time would be had it not been updated by the Navy
surreptitiously. But rotational surging is also a confusion. You should look for the change for yourself. If you are
currently experiencing perhaps a 45 minute delay at noon from your marker, one day it becomes and hour and 15
minutes, the next day it’s another half hour later again. This is your clue that something drastic is happening. We
encourage people to report this type of timekeeping to Nancy. It does not matter whether you’ve been doing this for 3
months. Set a baseline at noon, and watch that, where the Sun sets, the shadow falls, every day. You should not be
seeing a one or two minute change when those days come that you should worry about, but jumps, such as a half an
hour, one day after another. Then the alarm bell should go off.
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ZetaTalk: Fire Dragon
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Note: written during the Mar 29, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
The Sighting TEAM has had a number of surprises over the past 6 months, since the Fall 2002 imaging season began.
1. The first surprise was that two Personas presented, what was termed a Red and a White. This was due to the
multiple light spectrums coming from the Planet X complex, more than one in the red spectrum range. Where
filtering for red was done, there are many red spectrum waves, and the personas represented two distinct types of
waves. The White, appearing on target for the coordinates, obviously Bent Less than the Red, which appeared
more changed based
on the gravity pull, the distance over the core of the Earth the rays had to travel.
2. The second surprise was that the tail wafted out from the corpus as a moving object would have a Tail Waft, to
the side, behind the corpus, or above if the corpus was Moving down.
3. The third was that the Red Persona during a period of weeks appeared Above the White, due to influences man is
unaware of which the light rays had to pass through during that time, on their way to scopes on Earth. This was
not apparent until that period had passed, and we declined to clarify what the influences were as it would be far
afield from what humans currently understand, a distraction from the issues at hand.
4. The fourth was that the Moon Swirls would be far apart from each other, like integral dances, not a singular
dance behind the corpus.
5. The fifth was that as the Moons or moon clusters became visible in the images, the corpus seemed to Disappear!
6. The sixth was the vast size of the Dust Cloud, which was initially measured as brightness increase from
background, but lately runs off the images it is so vast. Now, during the last image session on Mar 23 and 24,
the White Persona could not even be detected! Yet Distinct Moons are evident all over the image. But just when
the corpus is disappearing in the haze, a red dot appears to the Unaided Eye at the coordinates!
We would suggest that the experience of the Sighting TEAM will have a parallel during the unaided eye viewing by
the public over the last few weeks. Back in September 21, 2002 when the first images were taken, the White and Red
personas were a dot only, and that intermittent on the frames, coming through however on the Summary demonstrating
that they registered on all the frames. That equates to what is being seen now, during the last week of March, at the
beginning of the unaided eye sightings. What the unaided eye is seeing is the complex, as a whole, not the corpus or
moon swirls. The corpus, the moons, the dust cloud, all are reflecting sunlight in addition to reflecting light from the
corpus itself, and this combined light is what is reaching the eye.