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the common man, will fare better, especially if they are using short wave technology. They will rely on this
increasingly, and it will be old hand and familiar by the time it is needed solely, for communication at a distance from the site.
Computer networks will remain in place following the cataclysms in accordance with their structure. Any electrical
appliance protected from damage will operate after the cataclysms as before, provided a source of electricity is
available. Networks are another matter, as there are many parts to the whole, and in the main any breakage will disable the whole - the weak link theory in action. Networks relying on wires run over the Earth cannot be expected to be
operational. Likewise, networks operating by satellite bounce will find themselves with a problem when the satellites
are torn from the skies. How then will computer networks operate? We would suggest that short wave radio networks
established by dish, not relying on satellites, may be a solution. From high point to high point on Earth, such a network could operate after the cataclysms. And where the pole shift will affect land lines, which will be torn, and satellite
bounce, as the satellites will be ripped from the skies - short wave radio communication bouncing off the Moon or the
ionosphere will survive.
Cloud cover does not much affect this short wave communication, today, so the murky atmosphere and low cloud
cover will not prevent short wave communication in the years following the pole shift either. The ionosphere will
reform, within weeks of the pole shift, as this is a factor or the component of the atmosphere. Like the separation of oil and water, which takes place after a bottle of salad dressing is violently shaken, the components find their level and re-establish their relationship afterwards. The ionosphere will be lower, however, due to an overall loss of atmosphere
which will only gradually be replaced, which will require using a different angle during communication to achieve a
bounce. Thus, radio operators should adjust to their changed circumstances after the pole shift as they would in any
changed circumstances today, using the same approach and choosing their techniques accordingly.
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ZetaTalk: Coast to Coast
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ZetaTalk: Coast to Coast
Note: added during the Nov 30, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
The Coast to Coast radio show, reaching on their estimate some 20 million listeners, has long been viewed as a way to spread disinformation and information by the establishment. During the Hale-Bopp episode, Art Bell could be counted upon to echo the establishment/NASA line, which he did, being none the wiser as to his role in spreading
disinformation. Likewise, he regularly had on Ed Dames, a former CIA agent, and Hazelwood, the son of a close
friend of Art's, also none the wiser that disinformation was or is being spread. To Art, or George for that matter, who are not personally privy to information sources nor themselves contactees, one wild line is the same as another, and the issue is keeping the audience rapt and coming back for more. But Art began to notice the relationship to earth changes
and prophecy, which was evident to the regular listener who caught him repeatedly bringing the subject up. Still, since quakes and weather and even Global Warming or periodic climate changes are cited by the establishment as within
normal swings, he did not buy into the Planet X and 2003 pole shift theory at all. George on the other hand is a more
logical individual, as Nancy noted during her interview. He laid the information out for the audience, in a logical
progression, as this is how his mind works! Thus, for himself personally and for the audience, they were arriving at the logical conclusions.
Both Art and George do not entirely chose their subject matter, nor their hosts. It should be no surprise for those working in large corporations, or major media, or working within clubs or associations, strings can and are pulled,
though this is denied. In a large corporation, a CEO may pronounce a decision as his alone, when in fact the phone
wires were burning with activity just prior to the announcement. In the major media, top executive and even major
stockholders hold the calling card, can squelch a planned documentary or suggest subject matter. All the while, the host is claiming these are matters solely in their hands. And likewise, something as simple as pillow talk, or a golfing buddy making a tangential request, can result in a change in agenda. Thus, both Art and George were asked to address
the Planet X issue, and George was asked to revisit this repeatedly as it is a hot internet item. The Coast to Coast
listenership is a gabby sort, which is why they burn the midnight oil listening to interesting gab. As a result, the
comments of the listeners get passed around a lot, and the grapevine being what it is, people at least are aware of our predictions, and the inbound planet being imaged. Thus, when this becomes the dominant obsession of all, due to
seeing it in the skies, they will recall having heard about it, and go research! Thus, it is expected to have reached 35%
of the American and Canadian populace, indirectly, no small feat!
By his closing remarks, George indicated he felt he would be having Nancy back in May 2003 [Note: see 2003 Date
explanation], to explain a failure, but this will soon change to a frequently, perhaps even weekly, schedule. Little time was spend on the ZetaTalk accuracy track record, so Nancy has spend a lot of time on email pointing this out to the
skeptical. In future, we would like to see this issue given George's considerable logical analysis, as it is certainly due us, and ZetaTalk, and most importantly Nancy who has sacrificed so much for little respect.
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ZetaTalk: Devastated Cities
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ZetaTalk: Devastated Cities
Note: written prior to July 15, 1995
The stories about Atlantis, which has never been found, are supported by myths of great cities destroyed suddenly by
rising water. Well, that of course happens extensively all over the world every time there is a pole shift. Cities in the main are established on coastlines and broad rivers, where fish and transportation ease abound. When the massive tidal
waves slosh back and forth, these cities do slip under the rising water and are utterly decimated. The cities are destroyed, completely. Buildings that remain are not repaired, as there are no hands to do so. They crumble under the
weather, stones eroding and covered by blowing volcanic dust and eventually rooting plants as the endless rains have
made the volcanic dust into inviting soil.
On mainland China there are remnants of ancient civilizations, and the stories of their past glory seems to exceed the
humble peasantry of today. Was there a great civilization that fell? Yes, as on all continents during the pole shifts, the devastation is so great that cities essentially are brought to dust. China of the past was in keeping with the Chinese
people, who are intelligent and diligent. But their development was no more impressive than what they have today. Of
course, there are places where today there is but a village, the inhabitants of which can scarce do more than tend to
their fields for survival. And if there are traces that indicate a great city once stood nearby, one could postulate that mankind fell. However, after the pole shifts the few survivors regularly migrate, constantly, seeking to escape the
gloom and constant rainfall which is everywhere. Of course the survivors disappeared. They went elsewhere.
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ZetaTalk: Machine Age
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ZetaTalk: Machine Age
Note: written on Apr 15, 1999.
Consider what is necessary to run the average manufacturing plant, which runs heavy machinery. Gears, metal plates -
it all looks quite solid. Lets say the building stands after the pole shift, having been retrofitted and braced, and the machinery itself is pretty durable. Some parts break, but one can replace them, so why would it not run?
There are factors in this scenario that are not being considered. All the necessary small parts, the lubricants and
additives, that will not be available. Most lubricants are necessary, to maintain a certain chemical balance, or there is corrosion. Without these lubricants, parts burn out, wear out, and you can't simply pour water or any chemical in, you
need a particular chemical. The chemical industry will be very hard hit, as much of their stores are liquid and will
burst, spray, disburse, and require specialized ingredients to create in the first place. So you back up, endlessly, and anytime there is a break in the link, the link is broken and affects everything downstream. So it all goes down the
chain. Even a tiny broken part can stop the process, as perhaps a particular metal or particular alloy is needed. Without this a particular function won't occur, an electrical impulse will not occur, or an etching will not occur. If that alloy is missing, all the rest of the machinery becomes idle, and simply is not effective. And if it's not effective, what is the point of maintaining it.
What motive is there for staying and maintaining this factory? Who is going to feed the workers, or pay their salary?
There is simply no flow of money. Bridges are down. The grid is down. The government is in chaos, and gone off to
huddle and get drunk and discuss among themselves. Workers do not come out of loyalty, starving to death, to keep a
corporate fat cat in business. They go off, attempting to find food for themselves. If the industry loses its skills, what occurs? Any industry that finds that its skilled workers are no longer available fails! This is a common fact, and one
reason that bringing immigrants into the US, educated and with a skill set, is considered a necessity. 3rd World
countries can't even get started unless they have this educated skill set. If it goes off, because its more important to feed the family than keep the boss in power, who's going to run the factory?
It's for these reasons that industry will not run, but will go idle. There are cities discovered in Central American and in China, found under the jungles or under the shifting sands, with no explanation for where the inhabitants went. These
were great cities with grand steps. They had irrigation, water flowing through the city, so why did it collapse? Was it a great plague? Was it a terrible drought? Did someone come and slaughter them all? These are remnants of pole shifts,
where great civilizations have fallen in the past. The survivors wander, in search of a better life. They are often
confused, as they don't know what has hit them. They are sure this is a local event and they are off to find out where
the sun is shining and the grain is growing. They all wander. So your industries will be idle, for these reasons.
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ZetaTalk: Worthless Money
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ZetaTalk: Worthless Money
Note: written prior to July 15, 1995
Money will begin to lose its value long before the cataclysms hit. This will be worldwide, and in almost all human
cultures. Why should this be the case, when, as we have stated, the majority of humanity will either be unaware of the
coming cataclysms or in denial? The financial structure of the world's financial empires is really quite fragile. Look to the swings of the stock markets, the bond markets, and other speculations. Panic sets in at a moment's notice. The
problem is that financial matters are based on human perceptions of worth. This moves about, even in the most stable
of times. The value of an item increases during shortage, plummets during times of plenty, and otherwise is affected by various perceptions of being in the right place at the right time. There are gamblers aplenty in the financial arenas.
One of the reasons that financial giants among the elite seek to negate awareness of the alien presence is their fear of the repercussions on the financial markets. If they cannot negate awareness, they seek to minimize panic. Look to
history, to see how little it took to create financial panics. What with the millennium approaching, and all the dire
predictions made by many, true or untrue, many people worldwide will be on edge. Add to this the increasing crop
failures, with consequent food shortages, affecting the markets in commodities.
Humans of good heart concerned with survival through the cataclysms are advised not to look to the money markets
for assistance. Put your money into land and stable structures, documentation on the technologies and scientific
knowledge of today, and apparatus with which to grow hydroponic vegetables and tanks for fish and crustaceans on
the nutrients from recycled sewage.
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ZetaTalk: Precious Possessions
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ZetaTalk: Precious Possessions
Note: written Aug 15, 1996.
During the Transformation, human society will not only find their moorings lost, they will also find their priorities
changed and their sense of what is considered to be a precious possession drastically altered. During stable times,
civilizations build on the past, the past dragged forward as welcome or unwelcome baggage. The past is intrusive, something the young and old are constantly reminded of, and serves as models for the young, rules to be guided by,
and social norms for the newborn to adapt to. During tumultuous times the grip that the past has on society is broken,
and priorities are reassessed. What are termed great works of art by humans are considered valuable only because they came from the past and carry a long list of credits. Each new admirer is thus bolstered and each potential critic is thus intimidated. Even frankly ugly works are thus floated forward, gaining in price. Possessions such as houses or land
carry value as they are assumed to be permanent, the house standing until deliberately torn down and the land
maintaining its view or agricultural productivity on into the future.
After the coming pole shift surviving humans will be starving, broken, frightened, and will find that the price of a meal is nothing so worthless as a painting or statue from the past. A sharp knife, a sewing needle and thread, some seeds,
these things will become the precious possessions.
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ZetaTalk: Barter System
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ZetaTalk: Barter System
Note: written Dec 15, 2001
We predict that long before the shift, a barter system will be replacing the current paper money system. The value of
the dollar, in all countries, will be falling, such that in any transaction one or both parties will feel they are getting a fair deal only if a thing, not a representation, is given or received. This is a common practice in countries where the dollar is falling, and a natural migration as the thought occurs readily to mankind, the barter system being recent in
their cultural evolution. What will this mean for the common man, and what will it mean for the
rich? The common
man will find they are pleased with themselves if they have had the foresight to secure goods of value, such as seeds or tools or dried food. The value of appliances that are dead and not able to run, even of cars unable to run over broken
roads, will be zero. The value of items that can increase worth, such as a needle and thread which can repair clothing otherwise worthless, or a shovel that can create a garden otherwise a weed patch, will balloon.
The rich will of course whine endlessly, and try to convince anyone who will listen that their goods will return in value, which it will not. Moneys will be used as a medium of exchange, as will jewels and art, in some settings, for a
brief period of time. This will occur until those being offered these at bargain prices realize the shift has happened
worldwide, and rescue and a return to civilization as they knew it will not occur. Perhaps months, but more likely weeks, and only in limited settings. We advise the common man, as we have in the past, to relieve themselves of stock
and jewels and paper money that will fall in value, perhaps suddenly and without warning. Better to stock up on things
that will have value, candles and matches, school books and a guitar, than what the rich treasure.
In that one's skill sets can be considered a bartering item, one should examine their own skill set by the following
exam. If you were in the middle of a wilderness, alone, what steps would you take to survive? What is the first skill that you would need, and not have? Whom do you know that you would wish about you, in such as circumstance?
What is that skill that they possess, that you perhaps could develop? Imagine a group in such a setting, having arrived at a land dump where various pieces of junk are about and could provide mechanical devices or shelter, if utilized
creatively and resourcefully. How would you go about creating a comfortable home for yourself, and others, in such as situation? If you are clueless on how to use junk to structure a home, recycle and hook up, then perhaps you should
work with a junk man, in his yard, and take lessons! What we are telling you is that you should mentally put yourself
