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livestock and even wildlife, depends upon the location, entirely. In some parts of the world, life will virtually
close down. This is near volcanoes, under the drifting ash, or where polar cold descends. In other parts of the
world, there will within two years be abundant grasses or weeds. For instance, the new land emerging between
Antarctica and Africa, will be moist, temperate, highly fertile, and without competition from livestock or seed
from most weeds. Any seed landing there will flourish!
In areas not in the path of volcanic ash, but affected by the overall gloom, one might estimate a 50% reduction
in sunlight and crop success. For instance, if a crop needed strong sunlight to flourish, it might barely get to
producing seed before the season ends. In nature, this would reproduce the weed, but for crops, it would not be a
return. Survivors will soon find what crops manage to give a return, and what not! Another factor is rot, the
moisture level, which will be extreme. Mold will be everywhere, dampness, bugs, and those crops that tolerate
damp conditions coming through, others failing utterly. Root crops, where they provide a survivor in the
evolution chain due to the energy in these roots or tubers, do not do well enough after a pole shift due to the wet ground and mold about.
Also, consider the wildlife and bugs, which are likewise hungry. Food under the surface can be reached and
eaten while the exhausted humans sleep, where fences are less likely to be breached. This is not an easy answer,
as it depends so much on local, and what each survivor or group is familiar with planting and harvesting, so the
variables are immense. If a crop can be grown in the dim, the damp, and is not susceptible to mice or moles, yet
carries nutrition, it is a winner! Remember, likewise, that you can eat bugs, if they manage to eat your crops!
Trees will in the main die, as they do not have stores of energy that can be tapped, and rely on annual sunlight to
maintain those portions of themselves that are live. Then how do trees survive, shift after shift? Seedlings, in
fact, survive better, and many seeds do not sprout until years later. It only takes a few sprouting seeds to
perpetrate the species. Seedlings are tiny compared to the giant parent, and thus can move along with fewer
nutrients. In fact, it is the seedling trees, growing a few years after the shift, that should be nurtured, not the dying parents. Just as after a forest fire, these are the trees of the future!
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ZetaTalk: Rebirth
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ZetaTalk: Seeds of Rebirth
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ZetaTalk: Seeds of Rebirth
Note: written prior to July 15, 1995
Regarding why people should be concerned about ecology, when a doomsday scenario is approaching. One should
ponder what will happen as humanity considers the nearing comet. Should one continue to save, regularly, for a rainy
day? For retirement? Or should one cash in one's savings and enjoy it while one may? Many people need little excuse
to have a party as it is. This philosophy can be applied to the resources of the Earth, its rain forests and wet lands, where the seeds of rebirth lie. These lands belong to someone. They are, so to speak, cash in the bank. Beyond the
desire to party, there is the desire to meet everyday needs. The earth will experience weather disruption, where
torrential rainstorms and drought will increase. Crop failure will be rampant, especially coming into the year of the
comet. What government, seeing the starving populace, would not be tempted to throw all ecological concerns to the
wind?
What would be the repercussions of this? One has but to look at history, the lost Mastodon, for instance. This great
and healthy animal roved many continents, in great numbers, but was wiped out during a single cataclysm. It takes but
a single mating pair to renew the herd, yet they are lost. During every cataclysm numerous species are lost, forever. It is not a matter of sacrificing ecology for humanity, as they are not in a contest. They in fact are brethren in the desire to survive. Mankind cannot live without a healthy Earth. It is the bed which mankind lies in. There is no benefit to
destroying the rain forests to
feed humanity. Cropland freed from rain forests will not produce during the months and years preceding the cataclysm.
Neither will filled wetlands. And what possible benefit can come from pouring poisons into the rivers and over the
land, in the form of pollution?
Those saved by ignoring ecological concerns are not the humanity in need. Those saved by ignoring ecological
concerns are the powerful and comfortable, who will be the last to starve when food is short. Efforts at pollution
control, the Green movement, is at present a holding action. The Earth will renew itself from the enclaves of life
protected at this time. These are seed stores, not only of plant seeds but the seed of various animals - fish and bird and reptile and mammal. Between now and the time of the cataclysm, the Earth's stores of the seeds of its life will be
threatened, and it is this that efforts at pollution control are protecting.
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ZetaTalk: Human Health
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ZetaTalk: Human Health
Note: written Dec, 2002
The effects of the shift on human illness will not be outside of what is experienced today, while traveling to foreign
lands or moving to a different climate. The admonition not to drink the local water, or to eat the local fruit without
washing it well, is an example. The human immune system adjusts, developing antibodies against new germs, so
illness is a temporary, if unpleasant, situation. The shift will find germs, as well as animals and humans and plants,
migrating after the shift, and this situation has started in the years leading up to the shift. Thus, even if one remains in the home land, new germs will arrive, uninvited. The roiling core, which is increasing in activity in the years leading up to the shift, has little effect on animal and human life, despite the increase in albinism like the White Buffalo. The core, after all, roils all the time, under normal circumstances, so is nothing new. Those surviving the shift will find themselves experiencing more illness due to:
1. new germs being brought into the area
2. reduced immune systems due to depression
3. poor nutrition
In any case, the answer is to have a positive outlook, as this raises the immune system; eat a diet balanced in vitamins and minerals even if a high calorie diet is not possible; exercise by taking action to improve the life of all in the
community as taking action against problems and doing for others raising the morale, overall; and allowing the body to
adjust to new germs by developing antibodies, a process that often requires the body to be sick for a period of time, but he fever and weakness are a normal part of the process. In time, this passes, so should be looked up on as temporary.
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ZetaTalk: Shock
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ZetaTalk: Shock
Note: written Dec, 2002
Shock, from a situation unexpected, exists in human society today. An individual in a car wreck, walking away from
the car where other family members lie bloodied and dead, has suddenly been thrown i
nto an unexpected horror. A
town, where a tornado has descended with little warning, tossing not only neighbors and family about like litter but
destroying a way of life, memories, and the continuation of a livelihood. A visit to the doctor results in the grim-faced announcement that a terminal illness has been discovered, perhaps more tests or a treatment can alter the prognosis,
but one should prepare themselves and family for a possible untimely end. A spouse announces an intention to divorce,
an employer the decision to close the business and relocate elsewhere - all can descent upon one without notice and are a shock from the unexpected and devastating. Nothing new, in human society.
The pole shift will bring about such shock, in great numbers, but with a difference. none will be spared, and all will be facing the same situation. Money will not put one into security, nor will hoarding goods change the odds, as the
Aftertime will be a great leveler and goods will be shared by force, if not by free will. The recovery from shock takes two routes, depending upon the nature and resolve of the person affected, and this cannot be changed by others as it is a personal decision.
If the individual, after surveying the situation, determines that life should go on and the devastation not
overwhelming, they seem to shake of their disbelieve and start talking about changes. This may be gone but that
remains. They had been hoping to simplify their life, and now circumstances have arranged this. At least now
they will be getting their exercise regularly, and that diet will not be resisted but assisted by circumstances. A
sense of humor about the situation emerges, and they start sorting through rubble and organizing activities.
If the individual, mentally computing the pros and cons of the situation while sitting in shock, determines that
life after the shift will be too awful to contemplate, they will continue in shock. This is a clue to others about them that they have made a decision. Their creature comforts are gone, and not likely to be seen again. Their
high social status is gone, others with greater talents and energy now commanding attention, and life as an
underling simply not conceivable. For whatever reason, the person continuing in shock, has decided not to make an adjustment, and attempting to force this will not bring satisfaction.
Those who have dependents, children or the injured or oldsters, but remain in shock and refuse to adjust or take
action, should have their dependents removed from them. Let the person who insists on remaining in shock sit there, in
shock, until death if this is their decision. Put your energies into the living, those who have chosen life, instead.
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ZetaTalk: Rotting Bodies
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ZetaTalk: Rotting Bodies
written Sep 2, 2003, during Lou Gentile live radio
Primarily, the large die-off will be in places which are pleasant living now, coastal cities, or river basin cities. These cities grew up where commerce was available, and the heavy die-off will be there. Since the waters rise, it will become fish food. In other areas, cities high in the hills, obviously, this will be a reeking mess. Nature takes care of this, in short order, within months, through bacteria and bugs. If you really want to know how to deal with it, get some
chickens that eat the bugs and send them out there to fill up, and then you can eat the eggs. Just stay downwind of the stench. This is not exactly socially proper advice, because people want to bury their dead. Most of the dead will be
under buildings or trapped under water somewhere. You have to do a mindset to think of the survivors. Think of the
living who are feeling pain. Your obligation to the dead is only a ritual you can put aside.
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ZetaTalk: Starvation
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ZetaTalk: Starvation
written Nov 25, 2003
Envisioning the dire situation in the days leading up to the shift, and following, many good hearted folk wonder what
they are supposed to do when there is a single loaf of bread for supper and a thousand mouths to feed. Of course, this is no different than today, for many. Starvation is rampant around the world, in many countries indigenous, so it is
only those in affluent environments who wonder such things. Those already starving know how these matters are
settled. But the reaction to starvation differs immensely, based on spiritual orientation. Those in the Service-to-Self horde, jerk food from the weak and either sell it for whatever price the desperate market will bear or add it to their
stores even if their stores are rotting for want of use. Those who have not decided their spiritual orientation dither
between sharing a mouthful now and then with a friend or piteous soul, stuffing what they can hide in their pockets
when around bullies, and otherwise wailing about the situation loudly expecting to be rescued. Those strongly in the
Service-to-Others work more by plan, having sorted this out well ahead of time in previous lifetimes.
In general, depending upon the culture and situation, segments of human society are selected to simply starve to death.
This is done today in many cultures, where the very old and feeble refuse food and a tender good-bye is given during
the few days of their rather painless decline into coma and death. They are expected to do this, and as these cultures
are often highly Service-to-Other in orientation, such as the American Indian, afford their elderly esteem, and thus this is not seen so much as a punishment for age as an honor. In other cultures, quite without malice, the very young are
given this treatment. Babies born and barely conscious are put out in the elements to die, or left without milk or fluids which quickly puts them into coma. No new mouths to feed. Lest this be viewed with horror, the alternative is that this child would be brain damaged if starving in early life, if managing to live at all, an alternative the culture is acutely aware of with examples in the community. Where the starvation has progressed beyond this point, a similar selection
process is done into the group, those already ill and not expected to be hale or recover volunteer, or an adult in a
family group determines that their portion should go to the growing children or the remaining spouse. Starving or
dying of thirst is not painful, and when done with love in consideration of the group, is not done in anguish.
Given the situation where the culture is not highly Service-to-Other, but mixed, how then would a Service-to-Other leader proceed? The choice is for those in empathy for others to starve themselves, leaving the group under the
leadership of more ruthless types, or a plan. In this case, not simply volunteers are to be selected to starve to death, as this would ultimately leave only the ruthless. A community meeting, where the matter is discussed, is appropriate. It
should be expected that the selfish will loudly insist they be given first opportunity to stuff themselves. The matter
should be presented in the light of what human societies have always done in the face of intractable starvation. If hunting and fishing is bringing in food, then the best hunter or fisherman should be spared. If a nursing mother is
acting as wet nurse to several toddlers, then her survival affects more than just herself. If someone has a skill or talent needed for group survival, or affecting this, then despite their desire to give their portion to others, they should be pressed to spare themselves. Even selfish groups will see that some approach must be taken, and after argument, consensus will prevail.
All this is assuming that all means of feeding the group has been considered, all food sources included. We have mentioned that weeds and bugs sh
ould be included in the diet. In the face of starvation, eating the dead should also be considered. The soul moves on, the body rots, and better it be given in love to those struggling than rot. This is, after all, what a loving member of the group would want, when volunteering to starve for the others. Don’t let me go to
waste, would be his or her last words! Or is it better the hunter miss his shot, the wet nurse giving the only protein
toddlers with growing brains are getting go dry, and the young become brain damaged as a consequence of their
starvation. You decide.
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ZetaTalk: Social Services
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Note: written Dec 15, 1995.
After the cataclysms the snug blanket of protection that many have taken for granted will be gone - no Social Security
checks, no home deliveries, no 911 emergency service, no free medical services, and no welfare checks. For those not
relying on those services the shock will be as great, as with home, job, and service providers gone they will be just as destitute and bereft. In essence, humans will be relying on one another, and not on an infrastructure. What will this mean? In most societies there are rules about who should live and who should die, even when these rules are not
articulated. Many American Indians let their old choose the time of their departure, a spiritual and poignant moment
for all, as the old were a burden on the young that all agreed could not be borne. In some cultures malformed infants
are not nourished, and all cultures push what they consider their undesirables to the periphery, to wither and perchance to die.
After the cataclysms new rules will spring up, depending on the desperation of the community and whether a Service-
to-Self or Service-to-Other orientation prevails. In Service-to-Self groups the strong will prey upon or ignore the weak until a homeostasis is established. What this means is that injured or frail humans will be ignored, not fed or assisted, and they will die. If they refuse to go quietly they will be killed, and if food is short they will be killed and eaten in any case. Eventually the group reaches a point where there are no young, old, or injured and the pecking order among
