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presume they will control, will turn a surly eye upon them well before the shift, and may take their transportation to
their safe enclaves away from them well before the shift, such will be the comeuppance they will receive from the
thugs they have employed. They will find nothing they have planned working as expected, the horrors to them endless
and beyond enumeration. In short, they will find themselves fully with those they have so casually condemned to
horrors in innocence. The poor, their babes in their arms, trapped in coastal cities by bridges bombed by the elite so the
poor cannot escape. The injured survivor, broken limbs, infected cuts, starving children, looking about without rescue.
This will be their lot, and a perfect Karma it is!
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ZetaTalk: Bunker Goverment
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Note: written during the Feb 23, 2002 IRC Session, and added to during the Jul 13, 2002 IRC Session.
Underground bunkers where the US government expect to proceed as a carry-on government have long been in the
news. Mt. Weather was a shock and an expose when first discovered, as it was so well outfitted and financed that the
issues was more how such a facility could escape notice, not only physically but financially within the budget, rather
than any other implication. Since its discovery, and exposure, Mt. Weather has not been the location of choice. This is,
obviously, because it is well known, and in times of trouble the public would crowd the entry and lay there, dying and
stinking, complicating life at this facility. Instead, other facilities not exposed, and supposedly secret, have been
promoted. This includes, as is well know by their neighbors, a spot in Indiana, the prime location now. Near Kokomo,
Indiana, in the hills surrounding this small town, burrowing goes on as the shift approaches. Other facilities are know
in the mountains of New Mexico, adjoining to facilities above ground in Utah and Colorado. Less well known are
facilities in Houston, which will be much under water but were placed there to satisfy the Bush family, who were not
into listening to our warnings about Earth changes and flooding. These in fact received the greater amount of funding,
and are stymied now as to what to do - move or stay and risk drowning? Facilities to house the elite are also fairly
well know, in North Carolina and Wyoming, prize locations of the ultra right.
In other countries, such as the Urals in Russia, there are known locations. Britain is planning to leave their island and
head elsewhere, most likely Australia. This is little publicized, but the rules about immigration in Australia reflect this
mindset. Canada has become a mass of public opinion the Brits do not welcome, and Australia has pockets of the ultra-
right well in hand for many decades, which the Brits feel they can count upon. The Australian elite are planning,
surprisingly, on being inland, the very places where flooding will occur. They reason that they will be safest where
least expected to be found, in deserts where little life except the peaceful aborigines exist. Thus, they are setting up,
like the NASA elite in Houston, in the worst place, flooded for sure. However, we expect them to change these plans at
the last minute, and thus they will be obvious as to where they are headed. Just follow the truck loads of supplies!
Africa, where expected to be above the waves, is considered a cesspool of infection, Ebola not the only issue of
concern. Muslim countries are expected to remain, the ruling class sitting tight, as they have no confidence in their
ability to move and still be on top of the pile.
Note: below written during the Sep 7, 2002 IRC Session.
In the past, the elite in the US planned to go underground in facilities such as Mt Weather. Mt. Weather, like
Greenbriar, got revealed and of course this ruined their ability to house the elite out of the reach of the maddening
mob. Many, many other facilties were constructed, as rumored, with the idea that the pole shift would ruin the
atmosphere but not cause extensive quakes and shifting of the crust. In those days, the CIA, who was dominant in
MJ12 in the early years, listened to the Service-to-Self aliens who impressed them with technology, and talked their
language, frankly, one Service-to-Self group to another. The Service-to-Self aliens spoke of saving the few, the elite,
and leaving the masses to their lot. This resonated with the CIA, who were composed at the start with recruits from the
Nazi SS.
What the CIA did not understand was that these Service-to-Self aliens were not into truth telling, and cared not for the CIA one wit. The goal is to harvest Service-to-Self souls, and the more hardened the better, so despair and a sense of
being abandoned and abused were the emotions and setting they hoped to achieve. Thus, they lulled the CIA into
believing they would survive, even encouraging the Sr. Bush to institute underground facilities in Houston, which will
be under water well before the shift. During the past few years, while the truth of these Service-to-Self aliens vs the
truth of ZetaTalk have emerged, some hysteria has emerged among the elite. The orginal underground facilities, which
were in areas subject to flooding or mountain building, were abandoned in the plans, and new facilities such as
Kokomo begun. The problem with these new facilities is that the construction has revealed them, and thus they too are
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no longer suitable. Thus, at this time, all plans are up in the air, though any and all facilities may in fact be used by the
desperate. They will be entombed, or drowned, or attacked by angry mobs gaining entry, and thus in the true light of
Karma get what they deserve.
Note: below added during the Dec 21, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
The US with their Mt Weather is not alone in their expectation that underground facilities would be the best bet in the
event of a possible pole shift. Human scientists present, in their limited view, the nuclear winter scenario, where all
life above ground would die. Humans tend to put a few facts into the mix, ignoring a massive amount of other facts,
and thus come up with wrong conclusions. This is done for several reasons,
1. the limited human IQ,
2. the desire to arrive at a conclusion and thus limiting the options,
3. limited human knowledge in the first place.
Thus, given the projection that a nuclear winter, caused by volcanic eruption, could and perhaps has in the past as in
the case of the presumed dinosaur extinction, the elite planned to go underground and live several decades thus.
In fact, as we have stated and any thorough analysis of the facts will present, dinosaur extinction was not caused by a
nuclear winter, as not all forms were so affected, thus it was species selective, not global. It was a virus, not a nuclear
winter. But given that military personnel are not know for their deep thinking, are brusque and bossy, they grabbed at
the projections and plotted their course. Given the size of the quakes, Richter 9 force worldwide, with mountain
building and renting of continental rifts, these underground facilities will hardly be a safe place. It takes little to trap an
outlet, torque an elevator such that it cannot rise or fall, and create panic in the tomb. Air circulation will not work,
slowly smothering those trapped inside. Wa
ter will find its way into underground pockets, drowning those trapped.
Electrical equipment will falter, plunging those into darkness. A fitting end of the elite who have, in their greed for
power and wealth, sent the poor into mines and such circumstances.
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ZetaTalk: Slipping Grip
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ZetaTalk: Slipping Grip
written Oct 19, 2003
If the intent of the White Lie was to cause the establishment to show their hand, to show their cards, so that it would
be clear to the populace that the establishment had no intention of informing them, even in what would be considered
the last days, but rather intended to restrain and blockade them in what would be death traps such as coastal and river
basin cities, then why the need for months of delay? Would not a couple weeks have sufficed? As we stated, the
optimal date for a White Lie was around May 15, and this in part was the reason for this date being chosen. A
secondary reason for an early date within 2003, chosen for the White Lie, was to cause the establishment to not only
show their hand, but to lose their grip. How did this occur, over the months since May 15?
Going into May 15, the establishment was giving great weight to our predictions that Earth changes would occur
‘shortly’ after this date. This was based on our astonishingly accurate track record on many issues, but primarily on the
coordinates, which proved to be precise. Human astrophysics was batting almost zero while we came up with the prize
each time, the glowing corpus of Planet X landing precisely on the coordinates we had given weeks and often months
ahead of time. To grab the oil fields of the world, considered to be the currency in the Aftertime, and position the US
Military there as guards, required steps to be taken well ahead of rotation slowing or stoppage, and thus the pressing
need to go to war with Iraq, regardless of UN approval or any proof of nexus between the 911 attacks and Iraq or any
proof of terrorism intent on the part of Iraq.
The oil fields in Alaska were considered in hand, Venezuela an easy step when the time came by removing the
embattled President, defenseless Saudi a simple matter of stepping sideways from an Iraq stronghold, the fields north
of Norway virtually undefended, pipelines into the fields north of Pakistan already guarded, and Nigeria on the plate
for an easy snatch by suggesting US assistance with unrest. Thus, in order to have a stranglehold on survivors in the
Aftertime, to have complete control of the future currency, oil, the move into Iraq was necessary, and the war
proceeded on schedule. What has happened during the delay? The US Military, pushed into Iraq against their advice
and assigned like robots to move into Nigeria, rebelled, and no longer can be counted on to follow orders from the
White House. Public opinion on the need to invade Iraq has eroded as the smoking gun, evidence of weapons of mass
destruction, were not found in Iraq. And thus control of all the oil fields is at risk, seems lost, as the US Military was
the anchor in the grand plan and they have bolted.
Can the hand behind the scenes, the major money interests that rule the world in point of fact, recoup? Those who can
be bribed have long been bribed. Those who are steadfastly attempting to do what they consider their duty have had
their eyes opened. Those who were to be left in the lurch, along with their loved ones, have realized who was to be
included in any safety and security during the shift and afterward, and who was to be left in the mud, in pain and
starvation, and are not inclined to help the elitists who so cruelly excluded them. Those at the bottom of the ladder, the
poor and hapless, have watched their world get worse under the current leadership, have experienced the endless lies
about the causes for the Earth changes all around them, and have no confidence in the leadership and especially no
confidence in any statements they might make. The grip, in short, has slipped. This leaves the establishment to their
bunkers, isolated, fearful of attack and looting, and not in a leadership position in the Aftertime, just as it should be.
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ZetaTalk: No Place to Run
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ZetaTalk: No Place to Run
written Nov 18, 2003
In the early days of awareness on Planet X, with decades to spare, the focus of that thin slice of humanity aware of this
approaching monster and its likely arrival date was exclusively on how to benefit from this devastation. First thought,
how to duck for cover. Second thought, how to last through in their bunkers until it was safe to emerge. Third thought,
how to emerge as kings. Alternatives 1, 2, and 3 addressed those issues, but the status at present is that:
Off-Earth bunkers are feasible only on the dark side of the Moon at a base run by Service-to-Self aliens, which
make all but the most hardened Service-to-Self humans uncomfortable, with access by only a tiny handful of
elite on Earth. In that even these are uncertain they would be returned to Earth safely, given the devastation that
all shuttles are likely to suffer during the bombardment of debris in the tail of Planet X during the passage, this
option is making all nervous. Can’t run there.
Bunkers on Earth, established decades ago in the mountains of the Urals, Appalachia, the Alps, and even in low
lying areas such as Houston, Moscow, western Australia, and Rome, have become known and in many cases
widely known to the general public. Alternatives such as the enclaves at Kokomo and Denver are closely
watched, and the Pope can hardly whisk off to the mountain of Portugal unnoticed, due to the acute awareness
of the Planet X threat now running strong on the Internet. Can run there, but can’t hide.
Emerging from bunkers, well stocked and defended by the military controlled by the elite, to become kings in
the Aftertime, was the plan, but this requires control of the US Military and this has lately been lost. The point
of taking over the White House, by voter fraud and the unconstitutional entry of the Supreme Court of the US
into the State of Florida’s recount matter, was to control the US Military, which has recently bolted. Hiding in
bunkers is distinctly distasteful if emerging will find one facing angry farmers with pitchforks. Can run, can’t
hide, and most certainly can’t emerge.
Bringing survivors to their knees, by controlling all the oil reserves in the world, was the plan even to within the
last few months, but has since become uncertain. Decades of planning to leave Sadam Hussein in place as an
arrogant brut, the excuse for a second Gulf War, was to allow a takeover of not only the Iraq oil, but the fields in
Saudi and Kuwait too. Incursion into the Russian fields via Pakistan was setup by support of the Taliban, Bin
Laden again a handy excuse long slated for his present role, and all other oil fields around the world considered
available for this picking. No accident that Nigeria received US Military assistance only recently, and Venezuela
has been openly destabilized by the US. This plan is running amuck almost solely because of the May 15 date,
which the establishment took seriously enough to push into Iraq when they did. They are now overstretched in
Iraq, a situation that contributed to the US Military bolting from White House control, and the overall plan
imploding
upon itself. Even Yukos oil, which almost slipped from the establishment's hands, is considered lost,
as the territory it lies in is rebellious and not likely to honor mere paper ownership. Can’t use control of oil to
establish kingship.
This brings the elite, at the moment when the pole shift precursors are so acute that the cover-up artists are
frantic to maintain any credibility at all, without a plan! The wealth the elite cling to for their power will vanish,
if not before the shift, certainly afterwards. Paper money, stocks and bonds and even real estate holdings, will be
worthless. Only land will remain, and rubble. Survivors will sort out into different camps, the good hearted
sharing and the selfish looting each other to death. The elite will stand among them, hoping to be disguised as
innocents. Knowing this, and concerned that their stores might be looted, their comfort disrupted, they are
concerned that the path of a stranger on the road might be met with a warm cottage and a bowl of soup, so that
they as manipulators of mankind might again ascend to their proper place in the world, as kings. Has the world
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of the common man been prepared for the shift? Oops! Thus the elite are now suddenly concerned that the chaos
they hoped would remove many unwanted mouths from surviving will affect them. They could be caught among
the starving, stranded and injured, cold and in the endless rain, and without any means to communicate their
distress. Can’t avoid being stuck in the lot of common man.
Not happy times in the halls of the arrogant.
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ZetaTalk: Agonizing Wait
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ZetaTalk: Agonizing Wait
written June 28, 2003
Those who are aware of our predictions of a passage, a pole shift, a new geology and flooded coastlines and river
basins, and the collapse of today’s financial, economic, and governmental structures are waiting in agony for the
