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prevent panic, and a private reason for personal gain, were established from the start. No technology was gained,
though the Service-to-Self aliens who teased MJ12 with this had a long laugh at the clumsy efforts of the US Military
attempts. Worry about Planet X was deferred while these same Service-to-Self aliens involved MJ12 in alternatives for
safety and life afterwards in a time of food shortage: escaping to Mars or to the Earth’s dead twin on the opposite side
of the Sun where they could ride out the shift from afar, escaping underground into well stocked bunkers where they
would emerge as kings later, and sculpting the Earth’s population to reduce mouths to feed via AIDS and Ebola or
other such assisted diseases.
As it became clear that no technology was going to be gained, and the suggested alternatives to disaster were not
possible, the cold clammy hand of fear descended upon those in MJ12 or their cronies. AIDS and Ebola escaped their
masters and ran amuck, infecting those who would control the micros as well as the intended victims. Underground
bunkers, with entrances and tunnels likely to collapse, would trap those inside in dark tombs. Escape to Mars or
elsewhere fell prey to mechanical and budget problems, which even enlisting the wealthy could not solve, though
efforts were made up until the present. Still, the establishment had knowledge, the ultimate power, where the common
man was ignorant. Keeping the common man dumb involved ridicule of UFO sightings, abuse of anyone claiming to
be a contactee, disinformation campaigns, and well placed assassinations of anyone in the know who went forth with
the truth. This truth included information about Planet X, not a real problem until recently.
Planet X and its likely arrival date were known to MJ12 and their cronies, but until the time drew near was more of a
theoretical concern. NASA, long infiltrated by the CIA to control leaked information by the scientists employed, went
looking in the early 1980s, so that suppression of the information on the predictable find in 1983 was no surprise. Since
control of major observatories, who are few and employ selected scientists likely to cooperate with a national security
edict, was relatively easy, the cover-up had a long and easy ride up until the present, when Planet X became visible to
the unaided eye, increasingly and rapidly so, in sync with Earth changes such as weather irregularities and melting
poles and glaciers and a strangely trembling Earth oddly not registering in earthquake databases. If Planet X is termed
in folklore as the great Destroyer, during its passages, it certainly was about to destroy the Big Lie.
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ZetaTalk: Credibility Issues
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We have predicted that as the Planet X complex made its presence known to the common man, in ways that the
establishment could not refute, that cracks in the cover-up would emerge. What has been put in place to prevent the
general public from knowing about the rapid approach of Planet X?
When the astonishing size and brightness of the Second Sun first began being discussed in the media, it was
quickly dismissed as either a weather balloon or a sun pillar, and the media told, once again, of a subject that
was not to be addressed. When the intense brightness of the dual suns came under notice, as how could it not in
that almost all of mankind is familiar with their Sun, this was already a subject known by the media to be
suppressed. A Sun so bright it could not be looked at even at sunset, a favorite pastime of mankind round the
world, and so bright that crops were maturing weeks early. No mention.
Then the red dust, the lick of the long tail of iron oxide dust blown toward the Earth by the Earth’s gravity as
well as the solar wind, came under notice. Red halos around the Moon, red clouds, red dust settling on and
blowing about, astonishingly blood red sunsets and red dust in the clouds at all times of day, from horizon to
horizon. No mention in the media for this worldwide event? None, as this was early put on the list of topics not
to be addressed.
Earthquakes had long been expected and a worry to the cover-up, as they were on the increase during the
approach of Planet X. In that monitoring stations are few, and can thus be controlled, this was considered an
easy matter. Drop quakes that occur in unpopulated areas, reduce in Richter size those that must be reported, and
tune down any live seismographs so they look benign, not extreme. This works as long as the general public
does not suspect, but when they personally feel jolts in their local areas, or hear from friends of these
occurrences, this becomes a credibility issue.
Sunrise and sunset times, and the apparent position of the Sun when light rays get pushed or pulled off course on
their way to Earth due to the influence of Planet X, or the odd placement of the Moon, which has altered its
orbit to accommodate the gravity influence of Planet X between the Earth and Sun, are on occasion noted by the
common man. Any inquires made receive the response that the general public, those making the inquiry, are
ignorant. Trust your government and scientists passing out pat and preprogrammed answers.
Signs of the alien presence such as crop circles laid down in a wink and in a manner that mankind could not
duplicate or mass sightings of UFOs that could zip about and do maneuvers that mankind likewise could not
duplicate, had long been on the media suppression list. An uptick in mass sightings was staged to be
simultaneous with the uptick in public notice of the bright object next to the Sun. These were strategically
placed, to draw attention to obvious signs of the presence of Planet X in the solar system, and of course the
media was flooded with inquiries and reports. Thus, even those newscasters and editors previously unaware were
acutely aware of this uptick in a subject matter long on the suppression list.
In all of this, numerous people outside of the tight circle who formerly knew about Planet X were involved. How
would they not? Radio and TV announcers, newspaper editors, and scientists at Universities or on the government
payroll would be asked questions, and needed to know what topics were to be suppressed, what pat answers were to
be given, so the number of individuals involved in the cover-up grew. As with the meeting in France of government
heads, reportedly to talk about Iraq and mend fences, where the word given to these heads of state was that there was a
presence in the solar system, expected to float away, and at all costs the mission was to reduce panic, these new
enlistees into the cover-up were told this was all for the public good. Nothing bad will happen. It will go away. Panic
will bring financial and social structures down, trammel children, open the door to unmitigated looting, and it is a
matter of national security, world security, to participate in the cover-up. This was the status quo until a few days ago.
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ZetaTalk: Cover-up Cracks
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Cover-ups meet their demise based on several factors, which vary depending upon the scope or longevity of the cover-
up: how many people
need to know, the demonstrable evidence that can be used to counter the lie, the ability to hide
or destroy such evidence, and the benefit to those in the know of maintaining vs exposing the cover-up. Take for
example the JFK assassination. Where the general public suspected the truth, few people knew it and many were
quickly assassinated to reduce these numbers to those in the government. Demonstrable evidence was Kennedy’s body
and brain, which were eliminated, and physical evidence such as bullets likewise quickly eliminated. Those in the
know stood to experience the wrath of a nation, so the cover-up had no cracks and has stood the test of time. Compare
this to the Planet X cover-up, which includes evidence that a pole shift is imminent.
How many people need to know?
Where at first the cover-up of Planet X entailed NASA employees, who routinely take a National
Security Oath, and key employees of major observatories who likewise are required to take this
oath, when Planet X announced its presence with red dust, a blazing double sun, and a glowing orb
alongside the sun appearing in numerous photos on the web, this group increased to include media
spokespersons, newspaper editors, and staff members at observatories and scientific centers assigned
to answer public inquiries. A mob.
What demonstrable evidence exists that can be used to counter the lie?
The Big Lie, that Planet X does not exist, is being countered primarily by the red dust in the Earth’s
atmosphere, dusting the ground and creating blood red sunsets and moons, unexplained by any
excuse that the Sun is undergoing an extreme solar cycle. The Big Lie is also being countered by
weather extremes without explanation, earthquake increases causes tremors in places not used to any
quakes, and UFO sightings and crop circles en mass clearly seeking to warn mankind of something
around the corner. This evidence is growing, and is a growing concern to those perpetrating the
cover-up.
Can the cover-up hide or destroy such evidence?
When evidence can be destroyed, or contained, a cover-up has a life, but where the evidence is in
the sky, falling from the sky in the form of red dust, and available to every individual on the face of
the Earth, controlling the evidence is not possible. Attempting to suppress discussion of the Second
Sun, or slowing of the Earth’s rotation, only invokes more suspicion that the cover-up exists. To the
extent that control lies in the hands of those perpetuating the cover-up, such as SOHO images,
Hubble images, Navy master clock manipulation, and statements issued by scientists employed by
the government or universities or major corporations, such evidence will be countered, but not
destroyed.
What are the benefit to those in the know of maintaining vs exposing the cover-up?
Clearly, the establishment in the know about the coming cataclysms stands to benefit from a
continuing cover-up. Public knowledge would cause their empires to collapse, banking failures, a
stock market crash, corporations devoid of workers, security workers vacant from their posts,
crowded highways, looted stores, and an infrastructure no longer there to support the elite high in
their perches above the common man. How does this benefit the virtual mob that has been enlisted
to maintain the cover-up? With the exception of looting and lawlessness, their view is that the
cover-up has no justification, and their expectation that the police and military would function
during any exodus to safety. Thus, there is division in the cover-up crowd.
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As the moment when it is clear that disaster is upon the inhabitants of Planet Earth, with rotation slowing such that
sunsets and sunrises are hours late, with the skies so red and gloomy with red dust that myths and lore about the
coming times are the only topic under discussion, with quakes so numerous and devastating that the infrastructure of
cities is faltering and road and railways becoming blocked, with inundation’s along coastlines causing frantic exodus,
the cover-up will crack wide open. Admissions will be made to clear the conscience, to save those who have been lied
to, blurted out in the news in a moment of astonishment or grief, discussed openly in a moment of forgetfulness, and
spread like wildfire on the Internet or by word of mouth. What will the reaction of the elite, those who directed the
cover-up from the start, be to such a cracked cover-up? They will retreat, to their enclaves, to their bunkers,
surrounded by the Military whom they assume will remain loyal or by well paid mercenaries, leaving the phone lines
dead, the offices and swank homes vacant, no explanation, and no one home or in charge.
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Navy as Master Timekeeper Down
Signs of the Times #85 (via email to Nancy)
The US Naval Observatory site for sun and moon data has been shut down. I tried to access it
today, July 3, and it came back and said: 'You are not authorized to view this page. You might not
have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied. If you believe you
should be able to view this directory or page, please try to contact the Web site by using any e-mail
address or phone number that may be listed on the aa.usno.navy.mil home page. You can click
Search to look for information on the Internet.'
Signs of the Times #78 (via email to Nancy)
The clocks are off for the TV stations. It is mostly NBC. It started last week. But again, last night
‘For Love or Money’ was suppose to end at 9PM. It didn't end until 9:12PM. [from another email]
I have been charting the stars now for a few weeks to watch for possible rotation slow down. I do
this using technical surveying equipment, a transit to be exact. This particular device is accurate to
a few seconds degrees of angle on June 25. Right now I am just comparing data from June 25-July
1. The Earth has slowed nine minutes. This is no joke.
SOHO Down
Signs of the Times #67 (via email to Nancy)
It is predicted that because SOHO is down, massive satellite failure is possible in the near future.
Clearly laying down an excuse in advance [Jun 23]. http://www.msnbc.com/news/930288.asp?
0cv=TB10&cp1=1 ‘Earth’s first line of defense against massive communication failures is expected
to go offline this week, raising the very real possibility that should a giant solar flare occur, the
disruptions of media broadcasts as well as consumer and military communications dependent on
satellites could rise sharply.’ June 23, 2003 http://www.spacedaily.com/news/solarscience-03r.html
‘The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) spacecraft expects to experience a blackout in the
transmission of its scientific data during the week of 22 June 2003. This is estimated to last for
about two and a half to three weeks.’
Signs of the Times #44 (via email to Nancy)
SOHO Experiences High Gain Antenna Problem, June 18, Goddard Space Flight Center ‘After a
spacecraft offpoint maneuver late on the morning of June 18 confirmed that the high gain antenna
(HGA) had in fact not moved more than a small amount (in comparison to the steps commanded) ...
If we a
re unable to drive the antenna any further back toward the center of its E-W range, we will
probably lose high-rate (i.e., scientific) telemetry this weekend or early next week. ... The HGA east-
west angle is near the "sweet spot" that would allow maximum coverage ... With the help of the
NASA Flight Dynamics Facility, we are also exploring the feasibility of changing the orbit in order
to optimize the coverage period of the HGA.
Earthquake Sites Down
Signs of the Times #74 (from godlikeproduction Message Board)
Mass shut down of Interior Web Sites ordered, June 30, 2003 http://www.theinquirer.net/?
article=10258 'To prevent hackers from reaching $1 billion in American Indian money, which is
managed by the department. ... judge Royce Lamberth ordered an Interior Department web shut
down, the first being in December 2001. Back in December, nearly all of the Interior Department's
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PCs were disconnected, and all of it's sites forced to be shut down. One of these sites was the
National Earthquake Information Center, which couldn't issue its regular seismic activities report,
due to the shut down.'
Struggling Scientists
Signs of the Times #66 (via email to Nancy)
A good shot of X with a bogus explanation on spaceweather.com today [Jun 26]. Quote: On June
21st, the summer solstice, photographer Stan Richard was at the Pine Lake campground near
Eldora, Iowa. "I was watching the sun set when suddenly this 'false sun' appeared," says Stan. What
was it? It is almost certainly a fragment of a Sun Pillar," explains atmospheric optics expert Les
Cowley. "When the sun has set at ground level, it still shines on high clouds for some time. Here
there are probably bands of cirrostratus containing plate-shaped ice crystals, which reflect the sun
to form the patches of light. At this time of year, at middle and high northern latitudes, the sun
lingers close to the horizon for a long time after setting. When there is a sun pillar like Stan
