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cuddle up to the great wealth of the Puppet Masters almost like groupies around a rock star saying 'how can I serve
you'. They have their codes and rituals, as do the Masons, but this is not giving them any power. This is simply the
way they interact with each other. Because they will tend to be rigid, following rules, a key factor in the Service-to-
Self orientation, and therefor considered reliable. Even Skull and Bones is that kind of a screening mechanism for
reliability, where you will do silly things, let them collect blackmail on you, follow the rules to get the perks of
membership. They are looking for people who can be manipulated. Therefore, any groups that they would belong to
would be more related to that kind of association. But their true bond is that they are both intelligent, completely
ruthless, had similar goals, and agreed to work with each other.
What about the Nazi ties to Rove?
Indeed, any student of history finds the early formation of the CIA was from the remnants of the Secret Service, the
cruel, cold, hard determination to control people by torture, blackmail, and the hard fist. The CIA was gathering
information that could never be revealed to anybody, allowed to operate on a need-to-know basis. All manner of
problematic situation carried on, LSD and mind control experiments and the like, and into this day with rendition to
torture prisons in various countries. All the while President Bush standing there saying 'we do not torture'. It's all so
secret and can't be talked about. Ideal for control minded Service-to-Self individuals. Yes, the Bush family runs right
back into the Nazi. Yes, Rove runs right back there also. The Service-to-Self aliens that coached the Nazi coached
those that hovered around Hitler, with their plans to create the German empire, forever expansive, and cruelty was
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going to be the rule. This scene can be seen in those gathered around George W. Bush. Very similar to Hitler in being
a very weak personalities. It is not just individuals who are hovering around, wishing to recreate the Third Reich in the
US at this time, it is Service-to-Self aliens psychologically counseling these individuals. These individual, the Bush
family and Karl Rove may not be aware of this because most contact with aliens is only recorded in the subconscious
or on a soul-to-soul basis. But they give the Call along these lines, and therefore they get a mega response being in a
position to be able to create big change, or so it is hoped. However, they are failing. They will not be able to create the
regime of the future they hope for anymore than Germany did. But that does not stop these individuals from being
ruthlessly ambitious and certain that they are going to succeed. They will challenge to the limit their right by
association with a sworn President of the Unite States, George W. Bush, to declare Martial Law, to invade Iran and
other such maneuvers, and find that they have been tangled up in Washington with a lack of cooperation. But at
present, they feel confident they will manage to get their way. Thus the smiling faces rather than anxious faces. But we
have predicted that they will not succeed. The worm has turned, the tide has changed, and they are going down.
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ZetaTalk: Iraq Invasion
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ZetaTalk: Iraq Invasion
Note: written during the September 7, 2002 IRC Session
Going into the Fall elections of 2002 in the US, the Bush Administration was beating the drums of war. Despite
immense pressure from allies, the UN, prestigious Republicans with impressive credentials, an utter lack of new or
alarming information about Iraq’s capability to wreak havoc, the Arab nations warning that an attack would
horrifically destabilize the region, and polls showing the American public absolutely wanting both the UN and
Congress on board before any action, the Bush Administration kept insisting it was going forward. Why? Because the
months leading up to the pole shift are viewed as an opportunity to establish global control, a type of global
dictatorship, and those tight at the top of the Bush Administration greedy and arrogant enough to believe they can
achieve this. What would such a global dictatorship entail, and what steps would be required to achieve this?
Military Might
This entails beefing up the military at the expense of all other government programs, and placing the military in
strategic places around the globe. Of course, the US military is already in strategic places, due to the long
standing view of the US that is must be the worlds policeman and deterrence the best approach. The confusion
about why the Bush Administration allies with Israel, forgiving atrocities against the Palestinian people, when
seen in this light, has an explanation. Israel is in a strategic location in the middle east, with a reach to an
increasingly reluctant Europe as well as Arab and Muslim countries. Combined with bases or potential bases in
Japan, Australia, South Africa, and Argentina, this is viewed as having the globe covered, militarily.
An Excuse
To muster the military, and optimally put the US under Martial Law, an proper excuse must exist. If the threat
of terror attacks from Bin Laden and his group is not enough, then staged terror attacks will be considered. Best
of all, of course, is to so enrage and destabilize the middle east that rabid attackers throw all caution to the wind
and simple go berserk. This is of course the goal of any war with Iraq, that sleeper cells worldwide would
awaken and take action, allowing the US to attempt an essential Martial Law worldwide. Europe is expected to
properly line up with the US in this instance, with all other global allies snapping properly into place, putting
their self interest in line with US interests.
War Lord Rights
Americans assuming they live in a democracy, where citizens must be charged with a crime if detained and
imprisoned, are stunned to find that citizens not charged, without any evidence of a crime in hand, are being
indefinitely detained by their country under the guise of being enemies of the state during a time of war.
Hundreds of individuals rounded up and detained indefinitely, off-shore to ensure that any brutal handling of
these individuals would escape scrutiny. Where this approach has invoked protest, in the US as well as around
the world, and has stepped lightly because of this protest, this would be the approach during the planned military
takeover of the world. No rights. A dictatorship. And those in the Bush Administration sitting as judge and jury
over any and all peoples.
Population Sculpting
It has long been rumored that the CIA had a hand in the spread of AIDS and the Ebola virus, with an eye to
sculpting the populations of the world, and the expanding use of chemtrails outside of the US is an indication of
an intent to sculpt the world’s populations during the chaos preceding the shift. Combine this with the seemingly
illogical insistence that abortion never be allowed, in a world already so overpopulated that feeding the starving
is an impossibility, and you see the sculptors clay. Eliminate the undesirable, force the desirable to breed and
bear, and you have a work force worthy of the arrogant war lords, or so the theory goes.
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ZetaTalk: Stumble
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Note: written during the September 7, 2002 IRC Session
Will this plan succeed? Hardly. Such a plan assumes that the status quo would freeze in place, such that no opposition
would develop, the pawns on the chess board remain available to be moved about at will by the chess master, and no
breaks in the ranks of those considered already under control. What changes will occur to upset the plan?
Economic Collapse
We have predicted an global economic collapse to the extent that the status at the date of our late 1999
prediction would fall to a quarter of this strength by the time of the shift. As of the date of this writing, it is
approaching the halfway mark, with all countries around the world participating in this collapse. The collapsing
US economy, going into the Fall 2002 elections, threatens to put the Congress in Democratic hands, effectively
blocking the military increase and war lord plans of the Bush Administration.
Geological Changes
Increasingly, leading up to the shift, the globe will suffer earthquakes in unexpected locales, unabating droughts
and firestorms, rioting among the starving and economically desperate, mechanical failure in equipment
subjected to stress or repaired inadequately by distracted personnel, cities staggering and imploding due to a
shifting base beneath them and trains increasingly derailing, coastal and river bank cities flooded out and swept
away, and opportunistic infections clogging the hospitals. The US military will be required to assist, pulled back
from global takeover positions, especially given a new Congress more concerned about the population than
rubber stamping war plans.
Breaking Ranks
During August, 2002, the world was stunned to see one after another staunch Republican ally of the Bush
Administration break ranks and announce that war with Iraq was unwise, ill considered, and unnecessary.
Former Republican administration officials, generals familiar with Iraq as an enemy, and notaries joined a long
list of countries publicly making the announcement. If war with Iraq seems unlikely in this context, add to it
breaking ranks within the US Military, already enraged by being treated as pawns rather than defenders of the
people. Missing laptops from the Control Center at the Pentagon? Have these been recovered? And what
revealing information might these laptops have contained, poised like a knife above the heads of the arrogant
war lords, ready to drop when the time is right.
Timely Expose
An apparent break-in at the bio-chemical weapons plant in Utah, where Sarin and Anthrax and other such
horrors are manufactured for the US and the CIA, at a time when Iraq is painted as a monster for having such
plants, threw this site and its mission into the news in a timely manner. Was there a break-in? No. Did an alarm
go off? Yes, and no human hand did the deed. Imagine the mess on the home front for the Bush Administration
if revelations on election fraud, at the hand of the Bush family, were to hit the news, or Haliburton and Harken
Energy and Enron revelations, or all the skeletons in the closet not allowed to come out during the US
Presidential elections. The world loves a scandal, especially when it involves a house that is rapidly becoming
the most hated in the world.
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ZetaTalk: Hours of Cards
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Note: written during the Apr 5, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session
There has, from the start of the war in Iraq, been a presentation to the American people contrary to the facts. Other
countries, with reporters on the scene, report otherwise, but these discrepancies are not addressed during the sessions
done by the American military or White House spokesperson. A war that was anticipated to be resolved, a done deed,
within 3 days, per the hype the White House was spewing, has dragged into two weeks. Setbacks include not being
allowed to loft cruise missiles over Turkey or Saudi land, as they are landing in the wrong country on occasion,
including the soil they were supposed to sail over. This, despite hype that they are so accurate they can find the proper
chimney to swoop down, so directed by the technology. Cities are reported to be secure, then over a week later the
cities are still slowly becoming secure, day by day. The media reports statements by the American generals, the Bush
Administration, congratulating themselves. Where does the truth lie?
As with public opinion polls, which can be manipulated endlessly to show a support that never existed for this war, the
facts can be manipulated. Select photos sessions, showing starving children grabbing food from the hands of soldiers,
can be interpreted as a welcoming gesture. Tanks and planes in the desert, soldiers playing cards and cleaning their
guns, are these victory photos? Imagine the number of bombs dropped on Iraq dropping on an American city, several
thousand over days, continuous booms, and not telling where they will land by mistake. What would this do to the
citizenry of that city? Of course the facts, the truth, are not being reported. The facts are as follows:
The invasion was so resented and rebuffed by the neighboring countries, as was the invasion in the first place,
that the so-called coalition which is in fact the US and Brits, had but a single small port to invade from.
Overflights over Israel and Jordan are allowed, but are limited elsewhere.
Thus, the troops now spread all over Iraq are in essence isolated! Supply lines are stretched from Kuwait inland,
across hostile territory. Should the troops run into problems, the supply lines cut, the overflights be unable to
discern what troops are what, what kind of a situation might ensue?
As the ambushes during sand storms showed, there is little to stop the angry Iraqis from retaliating. Supposed
territory seized is hardly in hands friendly to the invasion. The kingpin who asserts this rights, is arrogant, and
has bombed the heck out of a country for no reason except hunger for oil, is not held in esteem. Should problems
ensue, where the supply lines that carry both food, water, and ammo be disrupted, all around those sadly isolated
military personnel, it could get very ugly.
Thus, just as the terribly weak economy is avoided in the news, where the bank rate in the US is as low as it has
been since WWII, where the stock market world wide and in the NASDAQ is 1/4 to 1/3 its value at the start of
2000, where there is nothing but bad news, companies going belly up, layoffs, and bankruptcies, and is not
addressed in the news but avoided by continuous hype about the war, so the real problems with this war are not
being addressed.
It is a house of cards.
Bin Laden has not been found, had not been killed, is still alive and well in Afghanistan, but don't think about that.
Instead, pretend that Iraq is Bin Laden, and as we have talked of nothing but Iraq for months, and asserted endlessly
that the US has secret proof of a link to Bin Laden, never proved, but don't think about the lack of proof, but instead assume that the Bush Administration is rooting out terrorists by going to Iraq. This house of cards assumes that a win
in Iraq, with oil flowing to the US like honey, will distract the American public from the reality of what has just
happened. More oil, suddenly cheaper, will boost to Stock Market, so the theory goes. Since wars cost money, all those
bombs exploded upon the heads of innocent civilians in Iraq need to be replaced, a market boost again. And the war
mongers win, or so the theory goes!
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But what if the house of cards collapses! Does not hold!
Iraq is not won, Bin Laden reappears, the Stock Market so desperately held up by frantic buying and selling among
conspirators, an illegal act, falls to desperate selling with no buying. Thus, the fear that this house of cards will
collapse is why the invasion is talked endlessly as a success, a fantastic success, congratulations in the media by the
generals and the White House. My, my, would it not be wonderful if we all could congratulate ourselves on being a
success, and thus make it so!.
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ZetaTalk: Inspections
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Note: written during the September 21, 2002 IRC Session
Following the Bush UN speech on September 12, 2002, and in view of his lack of new ammo re the 911 anniversary,
Iraq and others around the world connived to run Bush into the briars. The Bush plan was to allow and even smooth
the way for terrorist attacks against American installations in Indonesia and elsewhere, such that he could incite
support for his war with Iraq. Dozens of attempts were set forth, and blocked by ourselves and others determined to
prevent the Bush administration from having this ammunition at hand. Thus, on September 12, 2002, Bush went forth
with a Plan B, which was to detail the lack of Iraq cooperation with inspections, a known and undeniable fact. Bush
