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as warnings to them and their masters, but this message was not heeded. We and the Council allowed success, as this
tends to pull the motivations of those conducting such campaigns out where they can not only be surmised, but proven.
You might call this a form of bait and switch, where they were led to believe they could succeed, while being given
the message that accidents could happen, and not by accident. As with 911, where the Bush Administration was aware
that they were being warned, were being told just what would happen, and ignored this, likewise they ignored these
warnings. Thus, their successes were not an indication of the future, but to demonstrate their motives to all, and this
time is at an end. The gloves are off now. Do they think they will go aloft, get the space station operational as a
landing spot, and actually make Mars habitable until a return to Earth post-shift? Should this scenario be sold to the
dumb, rich, and frightened, it will no longer fly. No one save the utterly gullible would buy into the statement that
NASA can succeed, now.
It is obvious that the probe failing at Mars was disabled so that mankind could not see what was going on, on Phobos.
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Left in the dark, they could only assume no activity there. This was directed by the Council of Worlds. This moon was
chosen by the giant hominoids for its mineral composition, which is rich in Gold. Why does mankind suppose that
Gold is present only in small amounts, elsewhere, as is the case on Earth? On Phobos it was the major component.
Thus, the giant hominoids were content to mine there, and the quarantine was secure. Where the Phobos probe was
destroyed by the giants mining Phobos, this was assisted to succeed. Had they not succeeded, we would have, and
thus, it was not simply the efforts of the giants that determined the outcome. And why disable the Contour, which
ostensibly was only going out on a probing tour. This probe, as you might imagine, was not going to head for some
silly dirty snowball, but was heading straight for the beef, Planet X. There it was to report all manner of information,
destined to alarm mankind as to the habitation of this inbound planet, the technology of this inbound planet, and there
you are with mankind having their balance between Service-to-Self and Service-to-Other influences disrupted!
How would this information be used, by those on Earth, to the disadvantage of the average emerging soul? Not unlike
the movies ID4, and Signs, wherein mankind was to cling to their government, who would save them, this information would be used to allow Service-to-Self governments virtual power to do anything to their public, in the name of their
protection. Look to how the US, the Bush Administration, has used the WTC attack to attempt to remove all civil
rights, the right to trial, the right to charges made public, the right to an attorney, and substitute decisions made solely
by a handful of power mad in the White House alone. The Supreme Court acting like a Kangaroo Court, in putting
Bush in the White House. The Congress not to be saved in the event of an attack on DC, only those in the White
House considered to be important. What does this say, regarding what an even greater threat would allow? The horror
is not what is approaching, as survivors will survive in spite of being uninformed, and those in control of the Contour
information would not be any more considerate of the public's needs than they are today, during their cover-ups. The
horror is what the public would allow, going into the pole shift, should such Service-to-Self dominated governments,
who desire world domination, be empowered with information.
Thus, the probe, which would have returned information that could be used to these ends, was zapped.
Note: added during the September 14, 2002 LIve ZetaTalk IRC Session.
The trajectory was to head straight out toward the inbound Planet X, and are sorry that more firm proof of this is not in
hand, and unlikely to get in hand. Much talk in the media about Contours demise, but no discussion about the planned
path! Now why is that?
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ZetaTalk: Soyuz Rocket
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Note: written during the October 19, 2002 IRC Session
We have mentioned that the US Space program, intent on getting man to Mars so the elite can ride out the pole shift
there, has been sabotaged as a means of quarantine. It is not just the US program, and there are a number of reasons
for this, which we will list:
1. The giant hominoids from the 12th Planet, aka Planet X, are currently mining there in Phobos, and mankind is
quarantined from them at present. This quarantine is to allow mankind to have a balanced environment during
their 3rd Density decision making process, as the giants, more highly advanced in the past and larger,
intimidated mankind and upset this balance. The quarantine also applies to the surface of Mars, where remnants
of their lifestyle exist. To the extent that this looks like intelligent life, period, it is allowed to be in the
consciousness of mankind. However, discovering details that prove the large and powerful size of these giants,
would not be allowed, any more than peeking at the inbound planet with probes such as Contour.
2. The elite on Earth, who are withholding news of the likelihood of a passage next Spring, are being deliberately
thwarted in their escape to force them to stumble, and in their desperation at some point, blurt out the news. A
clean get-away would allow a tight information outlet up to and through the end, but thwarted get-aways are
very good means of discombobulating the arrogant. Thus, all of mankind, all members of the elite, are to be
thwarted.
3. The giant hominoids are not going to move to 4th Density, along with the Earth and its inhabitants, some 100
years hence after the pole shift. Coming aback at some future date, they will find collapsed cities, pollution
washed lakes, and bones of man. They will also find a dim sun, and having observed the dimming from afar,
assume that the Sun died out, as they do. Thus, their own progression toward spiritual maturity can proceed
without jealousy.
The means of preventing interaction between these two cultures are many, but most notably include space programs
that meet with endless mechanical problems. At times, the steps taken by the elite are allowed to occur, as this
generates more frustration when they hit another snag. Fully frustrated efforts turn the elite to brutality elsewhere,
allowing once again the tight control over news we seek to prevent. Allowing success, after a frustration, only incites
them to try harder, and thus when the passage approaches and they are without a means of lifting off the Earth's
surface, they despair. It is then we hope that mankind will hear of the approaching passage.
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ZetaTalk: Columbia
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Note: written during the Feb 1, 2003 IRC Session
We have, over the past few months, when queries about NASA disasters such as Mars probes disappearing or
malfunctioning, or Space Station or Shuttle problems, responded consistently that this was due to Council of Worlds
decisions. Mank
ind on Earth is quarantined from the giant hominoids that inhabit Planet X, and vice versa. This is due
to a decision some eons ago that the giant hominoids, being larger and more technically advanced than mankind, were
upsetting the 3rd Density balance needed for a fair orientation determination, the lesson of 3rd Density. Thus, the giant
hominoids were driven from Earth by a series of disasters, and setup mining on a moon of Mars, where they are today.
Likewise, this quarantine applies to any plans the Bush Administration might have to nuke the inbound Planet X,
coordinating the various nuclear devices they have already placed into space, on supposed probes, from a well
equipped and staffed Space Station. This quarantine, and a decision to force the Service-to-Self elite of Earth to stay
with the populace they have such disdain for, also applies to an escape to Mars.
In spite of economic setbacks to the point of revisiting the Great Depression, homelessness, bankruptcy, cutbacks in
Social Security and medical coverage for the poor, the Bush Administration thinks only of invading the oil fields of
Iraq and funding a nuclear engine for a fast track to Mars. They are becoming obvious. Most recently we were asked
why, after we announced after the last NASA disaster that the gloves were coming off, that a seeming success was
allowed. Our answer at that time was that the devastation to these elite groups is greater when they seem to have a
success, followed by yet more devastating failures. This is an example. Since the last disaster, they have announced
funding for NASA. From a deficit greater than any in history, from a banking system with a lower interest rate than
any since WWII, from a tanking Stock Market and no hope in sight, that they are funding NASA so they can have a
fast track, a nuclear driver, to Mars! Arrogance, and obviously the populace matters not at all.
Was there any significance to an Israeli on board when the shuttle blew up, and was this truly an accident? Yes, and
no. The Bush Administration has made no secret of their intention to invade Iraq, lay mines in Iraq soil to disembowel
future children, and cause untold mutilation and injury to American soldiers and citizens of the Middle East combined.
They have zero justification, but this matters not to those who think they can dominate the world, and have the only
military might that can do so. This military might commandeered by coup, not by democratic vote, we might add.
Their ally in this invasion is far more than Britain, a rather nervous Blair, it is Israel. The brute force that has been
eliminating the Palestinians from their homeland could be counted on, so the logic goes, to invade and manage Iraq oil
fields, for the greater good of chronies of the Bush Administration, of course.
So a message was given, but there is more to this picture than meets the eye. What truly was ongoing on the Shuttle,
on the Space Station to be finalized in the next few weeks and months? Nuclear armed probes have been sent aloft in
the recent past, to the alarm of those residents on Earth who saw the danger to Earth should the probe not make it into
orbit. Was it quite necessary to arm a probe with nuclear material, just to explore the unknown? This probe, the
Cassini, of course, was enroute to Planet X, a trajectory not even hidden from public view at that time. And this probe
not the first or last such to be launched. To coordinate a nuking of Planet X, the Space Station, well above the soup of Earth's atmosphere, was required. The rush to gain debris that managed not to burn up is due only partly so that
determination of the cause can be made. Indeed, there are traces of what they were really up to among the mess. Not
only radioactive, the casings having broken, but the types of instruments aboard!
At last they had gotten back to staffing and equipping it! Or so they thought. A decision was made by the Council of
Worlds, and the directive carried out by those visitors who carried their concerns to the Council. We, the Zetas, were
not a party, but several other visiting groups were. It matters not just who was concerned that the population of the
Earth will be allowed to starve, to drown, to not be warned of the coming disasters. Those astronauts who go on
missions know the dangers, the shuttle having blown up previously due to a faulty O-Ring. Thus, they had made their
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peace with death, to a one. Not so the billions of innocents about to be tortured, maimed, starved, and deserted in their
hour of need by those who were using the space program for their own power mad ends. The message of the
disintegrating and finally exploding shuttle was to the Bush Administration, who will not fail to get the message. They
will not be allowed to destroy another 3rd Density world, they must stand with their citizenry, so much treated with
disdain, and there will be no escape to Mars or elsewhere! In that an Israeli scientist was on board, the first, there was a
dual message. You will not be allowed to invade Iraq as expected, to succeed, and your secret plans, your smug deals
with allies, will fail!
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ZetaTalk: Shuttle Discovery
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written Aug 11, 2005
NASA is trying once again to launch a shuttle, the first one since the Columbia disaster a couple of years
back. Are the setbacks they are currently experiencing warnings by the Council? Will the mission be
allowed to proceed as planned or will interference occur to prevent the mission from being successful?
[and from another] I had the notion that it might just be our space friends who are monkey wrenching
with the Space Shuttle for their own good reasons. Would the Zetas care to comment on this? And if it is
true, what is the strategy and what is the true mission of this flight?
What was the point of the repeated warnings that a malfunctioning fuel gauge represented? The fuel gauge mechanism
was replaced, examined, but still it malfunctioned. The message to NASA was that it was going to have mechanical
problems, problems they would not anticipate and could not fix, problems with a mysterious origin and an even more
mysterious refusal to be repaired. This message was not lost on NASA, who despite the public hand wringing on what
went wrong with their shuttle Columbia, despite the declared conclusion that it was problems with light weight foam
cracking the fame of the shuttle, knew full well that we and others had taken the Columbia down, because of the cargo it was carrying. The ISS was peeking at Planet X, providing information on its trajectory and speed, and to avoid
transmitting this information to Earth via radio, which can be captured and cracked, they were using the Shuttle to
ferry this to Earth so that only the elite would be aware of the presence and danger that Planet X represents to
mankind. We had warmed repeatedly that the elite needed to begin sharing this information with the common man,
whom they purport to care for as they collect taxes and govern.
Why the press to get the Discovery back into orbit? Yes, the Russians were carrying the burden of maintaining the
ISS, ferrying astronauts and providing supplies, and this was an embarrassment to NASA, being in second place and
dependent upon their former rivals, the Russians. Yes, maintaining the ISS indefinitely in this manner was not feasible,
and it would eventually have to be closed down if the Shuttl
e could not be back into operation. But is all this worth
lives? Is all this worth proceeding despite mechanical problems that cannot be resolved, not matter how many times
the same problem presents? A malfunctioning fuel gauge that malfunctions several times, and continues to do so even
when replaced? The message was clear, and it was also clear to the mass of humanity following this saga that NASA
cared not one whit for its astronauts, and was desperate to get into space, for some unstated reason.
This was one of the goals of those tinkering with the Discovery's fuel gauge system, to force NASA to show the world
that they were desperate to get into space, begging the question, why the desperation?
What is the future of the ISS space station, or any attempts to get the elite to the dark side of the Moon where there
are, as they know, alien bases where they could hunker down and survive the pole shift on Earth in safety. Where
Bush has trumpeted the NASA programs as having a grand future, talking up manned missions to Mars, the reality of
the failing space programs has leaked around this pompous stance like water past a rock in a stream, fooling no one.
The elite will not escape to Mars to ride out the pole shift, nor will they escape to the Moon, a place the shuttle would
be likely to reach, should the shuttle program be operational. Is it operational now? Bush and those in his
administration closely allied with him assume the US Military and the NASA space program to be carnations in his
lapel, things he controls, and as such, reasons the Puppet Master should treat him well. The US Military is in revolt
against Bush, the control of the oil fields in the Middle East a disaster because of his management, and now the NASA
space program a proven disaster.
This was another goal of those tinkering with the Discovery, creating not only an intractable fuel gauge problem but
tearing off foam upon take off and ripping a heat seal on the front windows. Getting the message yet?
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