by Nancy Lieder
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ZetaTalk: Elected Officials
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ZetaTalk: Elected Officials
Note: written on Nov 15, 1995
How much does any President learn about MJ12, and what does the smarmy group that calls itself the Congress of the
United States know? Next to nothing, and this more by rumor and innuendo. MJ12 limits its membership on a need-
to-know basis, which should not surprise anyone as it is run by military intelligence units. Why would the current
Congress or its current President need to know anything when they are just passing through? Of course, they demand
to know more but can't find the end of the string much less pull strings. MJ12 is not in the phone book, does not have
a budget, is run by people who have parallel titles within the bureaucracies, so as an organization MJ12 is invisible.
Those who are in the know are people whom MJ12 has contacted. They choose, and introductions or inquiries simply
don't come from the other direction. Those in the know are contacted because MJ12 desires something from them -
services or cooperation or knowledge. These most often are individuals who already have security clearance, be they
former military or current government employees or private citizens sworn in. By being enlightened these individuals
pay a price, as joining the greater MJ12 organization is like joining the Mafia - one does not quit. The rules are strict.
No profiting by your knowledge, no refusing to abide by the MJ12 board rulings, and no talking. The penalty can be,
and has on occasion been, death. Consequently, this group is relatively small, numbering a few hundred, and is only
increased in size by new members when there are extenuating circumstances.
Quite frankly, elected officials rarely fit the bill. Not talking is antithetical to politicians, who earn their living by hot
air. Politicians tend to be deal makers with soft principles, and the power that comes with the knowledge that
membership in MJ12 provides can be heady. Politicians would get themselves killed, on a regular basis, and as they
are public figures this would prove awkward. They are left in the dark as this is the lessor of two evils and for their
own good.
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ZetaTalk: World Leaders
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ZetaTalk: World Leaders
Note: written on Feb 15, 2000. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
Much information can be relayed simply by body language. For instance, if a politician is having an affair, and it is a
dangerous affair as he is becoming susceptible, how would this information be relayed to other world leaders? Perhaps
it is not a proven thing. It may only be a rumor. One raises an eyebrow, shakes the head, casts a solemn look for a
moment. In this way a message has been relayed. In regards to the 12th Planet, MJ12, the secret government, became
aware of the 12th Planet’s approach and the time frame shortly after Roswell, but said nothing as they had not located
it themselves. They located it in 1983 after having searched for it for a few years, and have been watching and
monitoring it ever since. So what do world leaders do? Does the US President know?
The US President knows, but only from the standpoint that their may be cataclysmic changes. It is always a maybe,
and here are the possibilities and options of what might happen. We may declare martial law. We may have crop
shortages. We may have to do this or that. This is treated no differently than a nuclear war and these possibilities. A
drill is done. The major superpowers, allied with the United States, know. They are told, absolutely, to keep their
mouths shut and not relay this to a family member or make any moves. There are some rumors that fly about, and
there are always leaks, but leaks are controlled so that those outside of the superpowers are not aware, per se, or have
this information in their hands. If it looks like they may be leaning in the direction of learning about the 12th Planet’s
approach, they get a visit and this information is relayed in part so that the party who is getting the information feels that now they are in the inside circle, but they are not. In any case, any politician who has a slip finds that they have
had a heart attack, a skiing accident, or whatever, and there is more of this that goes on than most would believe.
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ZetaTalk: Certain Countries
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ZetaTalk: Certain Countries
Note: written on Dec 15, 2001
Countries outside the inner circle of knowledge about the coming shift are reacting at present to weather and crop
problems as they have in the past. Police are mustered to keep riots down, so starvation proceeds quietly. Should they
learn that the Earth will undergo the changes it will, those in power can be expected to react as they do today to
situations threatening themselves or the public they are responsible for. Honesty in government is in keeping with their
current stance, and unlikely to change in the months and days going into the shift.
In countries where caring concern exists, such as the Scandinavian countries, it could be expected that
announcements close to the truth are made to the public. The public would move inland, and be supportive of
each other, in the main, with little rioting.
In countries where the elite deal harshly with the public, living in great wealth while misery lies just outside
their doors, a cover-up can be assumed to occur. Where such wealthy elite learn of coming changes, they will
think first of themselves, and flee if this is called for, to safety, or stock up and batten down against demands
from the starving public.
In those countries where disinformation and denial are in place, such as in the US where the warming core of
the Earth, increasing earthquakes, and crop shortages are simply not discussed in the news nor admitted to, this
status quo can be expected to continue. Any facts and figures that would alert or alarm the public will kept from
the direct or mainstream news, but will be allowed on the Internet or back page news. The reason for this
seeming contradiction is that the powers that be, the controlling elite, feel that unless some steps to prepare for
survival are taken, the elite themselves would not have a serf or working class to rule.
How many governments are aware of the approach of a shift? Few. A half dozen are in the loop, with another dozen
suspecting but not told. This is of course not a change from the status quo among governments. In the past, economic
conspiracies would exist, be suspected, but never proven. The CIA, working for the US as a democracy, has destroyed
and brought down many fledgling democracies, elected governments. This is known, was known, yet the CIA never
called to account. Those countries outside of the inner circle have been there all along, so suspecting yet another
conspiracy of silence is not something they would loudly proclaim. They have long since learned to live with this
situation, and understand that more information is learned from those closely holding their tongues, who can be trusted
to do so. Thus, the industrialized giants - the US, Britain, France, Germany, Russia, and Japan are in the know.
Countries susp
ecting are those surrounding these - Canada, Mexico, and the EU. Those watching nervously as the US
treats global warming as a nonentity to be dismissed, while the weather howls, include the rest - China, Africa,
Australia, and South America.
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ZetaTalk: Planet X Passage
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ZetaTalk: Planet X Passage
Note: written during the July 13, 2002 IRC Session
Observatories and their allies and obligations are not what it seems to the general public. Since the time of Roswell,
when it became obvious to the US that the alien presence was real, and how easily the general public could become
aware of this, new rules have been pressed. We have mentioned previously that Russia, though ostensibly an enemy,
held at bay, a competitor in space, was an ally on holding the line of UFO's and the tracking of Planet X. This is done
at the highest levels, where these space missions are funded and observatories funded. Observatories, as space
exploration, requires the staff and astronauts to be under a National Security Oath, or similar commitment in other
countries. What do you suppose that Reagan and Thatcher talked about, while visiting each other, or the Russians
visiting, and the like. Do you think the tape recorders are rolling all the time, and that private conversations or secure
phone lines do not exist? They all agreed that until they were able to:
1. rebuff aliens from landing and doing at will what they would with the populace, and
2. determine the path and passage of Planet X and what to do in the scenario depicted by ourselves, that they would
not allow the general public to be aware.
No argument. No disagreement between these major countries that control the public's access to knowledge of outer
space! What does this involve? US, Russia, Japan, Britain, and others who wish to ally and collaborate in science or
space exploration. Get on board with the program or not, and if not, then you'll not be an ally or partner. So, Britain and the others have always known, had access, and the many technological adjustments to get a better look at the
skies, at the inbound monster coming on as predicted by ourselves, has never been a secret among the allies and
partners. All public movement to the contrary, they already know.
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ZetaTalk: China Visit
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ZetaTalk: China Visit
written Apr 21, 2006 on the live GodlikeProduction Radio show.
Would the Zetas care to comment on Bush's meeting with Hu Jintao. Is China giving Bush an ultimatum
over Iran?
Nancy: Before we even get started on this question, let me give as background that China gets much of its
oil from Iran, as well as from Russia, and China and Russia are snugging up behind Iran, giving support
and forming alliances. They clearly don't want the mess in Iraq to spill over into Iran. Then there's
another side, which is that our debt is being supported by China sinking a lot of dollars into it. The trade
imbalance is such that the US buys a lot of China stuff, it's cheap, but they don't buy a lot of our stuff.
Consequently, the Chinese get all these dollars when we buy their stuff, so they've got all these dollars
they've got to invest, and they do it by buying our bonds. Since our dollar is dropping, even with interest,
they might be getting back less than they put in. So if you rattle China, and they don't buy our bonds but
instead dump our dollars, this not only does not float our debt, we need a huge amount of cash infusion to
float our debt, but it would cause our dollar to drop even more than it is, and this creates an inflationary
situation in the US. Iran also wants to open an oil bourse, which will allow the world to trade for oil in
Euros rather than dollars.
What's holding the US dollar up is the fact that the Saudi's, decades ago, agreed to only trade in US
dollars, and they're one of the biggest producers, have one of the largest reserves. Even though Norway
and Venezuela and some other countries have switched to the Euro, Iran would have been the straw that
breaks the camels back, trading that would rival the London oil trade which deals in dollars. If that
happens, countries like China do not need to hold their dollars for oil. They can just switch over to the
Euro. In anticipation of this kind of a disaster, the US stopped reporting their M3 report, which shows
where the money is coming from. This means they can print money like a banana republic, and no one
would know it. But when you flood a lot of printed money into the market, every dollar that's out there
loses value and rampant inflation sets in. Another issue is that China is pinning their Yuan to the US
dollar, which makes their goods remain cheap in the US, where the US wants them to free their Yuan
from the dollar. This would allow the dollar to drop and reduce the value of the bonds China holds,
thereby reducing the US debt load. This is the background to the question.
The people of China and the US would be surprised to know that none of the issues that Nancy has mentioned were
discussed. They did not discuss the war in Iran. They did not discuss the trade imbalance or any kind of agreement to
get more US goods purchased in China. They did not discuss oil wars or the threat of the US taking over in Iran,
which is a major producer for China. They did not discuss the threat that China could dump US dollars or fail to buy
bonds in the US in order to support the US debt, the thirst which requires huge infusions of cash on a daily basis to
maintain the debt. None of these matters were discussed. They had been discussed via emissaries and thus their
positions were already known and not new. Why would Hu travel all that way to discuss something that had been
hashed over repeatedly. They talked about something more pertinent.
We have repeatedly stated that the heads of major countries are aware of the pending passage of Planet X and what this means. China has its own culture, its own history and prophecy to rely upon, not just the recording of the Jewish
Exodus or of the Flood by the Egyptians. They have their own great cities which were destroyed in the past. When
people say, ' whatever happened to the great cities of China', they know what happened. It's recorded that 1,600 BC
there was snow in Summer in China, and this is from their annals, so they are aware of the weather irregularities that
precede a pole shift. We have reported in the past that the meeting that occurred after the invasion in Iraq where all the
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' oh, should we go into Iraq of not' and ' who is a coalition partner or not'. That was all nonsense. They were discussing that there was a presence in the solar system and telling these heads of countries not to let this be discussed openly,
that there would be no damage during the passage but the threat of panic in the populace was the big worry. Therefore,
sit on discussion, don't say anything, and we'll make it worth your while. Bribes, and intimidation, and the like. Bush
then paid a visit to Africa, a country he would like to avoid completely, as he agreed he would go over and express
interest in Africa. Likewise, the Hu vis
it was related to the pending passage.
These matters are not discussed on the phone. They are not discussed by email or any kind of electronic means that
could be hacked or potentially spewed over the Internet. Face to face only. When Bush and Cheney go over to Asia
and the Middle East as they did recently, or Bush and Condi goe to Europe, what are they talking about? They're
having face to face meetings. When in Europe, there is the US Puppet Master, the House of Rothchild which is
headquartered in Europe. What was discussed during Hu's visit? Where will China sit? What will China do? What will
the US do? At what point is there a border that is considered sacred? Or are there borders that are considered mushy?
What lands that the US might want to invade or take hold of during the pole shift would China allow in US hands.
What does China consider sacred? What lands around China were considered too close for comfort? Stay out of Iran,
because we would not allow the US with the greatest military in the world to rush over into China's borders. What
about Japan? The US is an ally of Japan, but Japan is small and expected to be devastated during the pole shift. It's on
the Ring of Fire, with so many volcanoes. Up for grabs. Korea likewise. The US is already pulling troops out of South
Korea, and telling South Korea ' you're on your own'.
So this was a discussion about territories, and also along the lines of China's alliances with Brazil and alliances in
South America. The Bush administration would like to consider all of South America their back yard. They're already
trying to get a foot hold in Argentina and conducting military games down there and being told ' we would like you to
leave'. Israel is also down in Argentina, as it is presumed to be a country that will do well after the pole shift, not be
flooded like Brazil. What does China mean by selling armaments in South America, and how does the pushing and
shoving and the desire of the Bush administration to control both of the America's fit? Basically, China told them not
to consider South America their playground, that Russia and China are making alliances there and would like to
