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countered is the fervor with which those perpetrating this hoax persist. Why the fervor? Standing behind this myth is
the desire in certain humans to hold a weapon that can injure ourselves and other non-human visitors to the Earth. If
nuclear explosions destroy us, or upset our space/time continuum, then we cannot elude humans simply by slipping
into another dimension. We must leave the Earth. This myth is fostered by those who would self delude themselves
that they possess such a weapon, and also by those who would delude others into an alliance with humans solely.
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ZetaTalk: Philadelphia Experiment
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ZetaTalk: Philadelphia Experiment
Note: written by Jul 15, 1995
The Philadelphia experiment was fictional, a disinformation scheme to divert humans from exploring the real
experiment that occurred. The Philadelphia experiment much in the media is a fraud perpetrated to distract people from
pursuing the real Philadelphia experiment, which didn't take place anywhere near Philadelphia. Servicemen were
indeed injured, and because the risk of questions existed, the cover story was put up to effectively point any
questioners to a dead end. The real experiment with moving between dimensions, which can and does occur naturally
on your 3rd Density planet, was done in a warehouse in Kansas - rural, remote, virtually uninhabited because of sparse
farm houses and farm hands. The area was inhabited only during planting and harvesting times.
Under intense compression, such as occurs in the center of the Earth, 3rd Density matter emits energy rays which
approximate those naturally occurring in 4th Density. These rays escape the core of the Earth in bursts on occasion,
thus causing the problems reported in the Bermuda Triangle, for instance, where ships or planes seem to disappear,
then reappear. Essentially, the 3rd Density matter is temporarily confused as to its proper rate of vibration, and moves
into the 4th Density state. This is akin to what we have done to contactees when they report having moved through
walls. However, in the hands of humans, who received information on how to produce this effect from Service-to-Self
aliens, this ability proved disastrous. Moving into 4th Density requires more than just bombardment of matter to the
point of compression tension. It requires a total shift, and if one expects to return, a total shift back.
The humans conducting this experiment were of such an orientation that they did not care about the servicemen being
used, or what might become of them. Rather than hesitate, knowing they did not have all the parameters in place, they
proceeded. The servicemen, who were encased in a metal box, were left partially in the 4th Density, along with
portions of their container. They were, of course, all dead, but the witnesses of this experiment, and the associates
whom the servicemen had just recently been mingling with, were many. The government concocted a repeat
experiment, which proceeded part way, enough so that the story as to the results was similar. Additional servicemen
were subjected, knowing the probably results, but most of these survived to chat among themselves and their families.
All secrets escape, leaks occur, and in this way the investigators would be altogether in the wrong vicinity, and talking
to altogether the wrong participants!
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ZetaTalk: Montauk Project
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ZetaTalk: Montauk Project
Note: written on May 15, 1996
Having observed that the Service-to-Self aliens they were in contact with could do marvelous things, the secret
government had no doubt that they could also travel through time. That this capacity is strictly regulated by the
Council of Worlds and is almost without exception never granted to the Service- to-Self crowd when they request
authorization was, of course, not mentioned. In concert with density shifting experiments in the Philadelphia
Experiments, time travel was attempted. This was an utter failure, with the human scientists tinkering with their
machines under instructions received from the Service-to-Self aliens, and suffering under the wrath of generals who
were sure that the project was only failing because of their incompetence. After a time, the project was put on hold,
due more to emotional and mental exhaustion than any change in plans.
Eventually, the generals involved realized that those in the Service-to-Self lie freely and without conscience, and
abandoned the project altogether. Nonetheless, rumors abound, and due to the sensational nature of the project and the
power that would accrue to those who might succeed, the rumors and interest in the Montauk experiment are unlikely
to die.
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ZetaTalk: Alternative 3
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ZetaTalk: Alternative 3
Note: written by Jul 15, 1995
Alternatives 1, 2, and 3 have been much bandied about, as solutions given to humans on how to approach the coming
Earth changes. Some stories have it that humans derived the three scenarios themselves, but the stories coming from
sources closer to the heart of the matter point to alien suggestions on these alternatives. This is correct. Why would
humans decide to locate on other planets to escape pollution or nuclear fallout, when the have neither the means to
travel to other planets, the capability of sustaining themselves there, or a pollution situation dire enough to be frantic
about escaping from? It is, therefore, obvious that these suggestions were given to humans by aliens, aliens in the
Service-to-Self orientation we might add. The alien agenda was falsely presented to the humans involved as being a
concern for their survival. As the high level government contacts were strongly in the Service-to-Self orientation, they
saw all this as their escape, their alternatives, and were not at any time thinking about humanity in general. What the aliens truly sought was to subvert these humans to sink more and more deeply into the Service-to-Self orientation. To
some degree, and with some humans, they succeeded.
Alternative 3 is suspected as having been implemented, as Alternatives 1 and 2 have been. The United States
government went underground, at Mount Weather and numerous other spots, as has been documented to the
satisfaction of even the skeptical reader. This fact is not even being denied by the government any more. Portions of
the government, and we are here speaking of rogue CIA officers, set out to trim and prune the Earth's humanity to their
liking. Thus we have the AIDs and Ebola viruses, as well as various wars and conflicts which the CIA always seems
to be at the center of. Likewise, Alternative 3 was implemented, but as the populace can't get up to the surface of other
planets, this cannot be demonstrated to the satisfaction of skeptics. Of course, there are clues such as the tight controls
placed over transmissions from probes, and the odd malfunction of the Mars probe just as it was about to hit pay dirt.
As the populace cannot get at the facts, and as we are not currently restrained by any agreement with the government
on this matter, and as there are not currently any Service-to-Self aliens involved on this issue whereby we would be
restrained by the Rules of Engagement - we will tell you about Alternative 3. As with the other Alternatives, the
particulars of this alternative were something the Service-to-Self aliens contacting the government were familiar with.
They are currently parked on the surface of planets in your Solar System - Mars, the Moon, and a dead planet in orbit
opposite your Earth, which you never see as the Sun blocks your view. They sent representatives of the US and other
governments up to these places, to demonstrate that such a living arrangement was hospitable. Matters soon went
amuck, however.
Soon the human guests became stressed in the heavy Service-to-Self environment. Most of the guests were simply 3rd
Density spirits, weighing and balancing and trying on for size the two choices in spiritual orientation - Service-to-Self
or Service-to-Other. Here, far from home, they found themselves watching, continuously, on a daily basis and with no
respite, the harsh reality of life in the Service-to-Self community. Stress diseases cropped up among the humans, ulcers
and heart palpitations and arthritic pains. They became distracted in their work, stricken with headaches and vague
feelings of weakness. Their human commanders, paranoid about living away from the Earth to begin with, attributed
all this to planetary factors such as gravity, air pressure, air composition, or perhaps strange rays that were not
measurable on their instruments.
The plan was abandoned, and the humans who participated were exterminated. Their bodies were not returned to
Earth, nor should one look for this to happen. One should recall that the members of the various governments who
were participating were strongly in the Service-to-Self orientation themselves, and had no hesitation on eliminating
their human volunteers, whom they had so warmly congratulated just weeks before. Those in the Service-to-Self
orientation are not noted for being truthful.
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ZetaTalk: Alternative 3
The Moon was one of the planets occupied by humans as a result of the implementation of Alternative 3. As the Moon
is so close to the Earth, so reachable, the alien installations on the Moon have been a source of endless fascination by
amateur astronomers with telescopes and vivid imaginations. Can humans see these installations? They cannot, as they
are on what is termed the dark side of the Moon which never faces the Earth. However, the astronauts landing on the
Moon correctly noticed traces of activity, a surprise to them, and made comments which were instantly broadcast to
the rapt audience participating in this historic landing worldwide, the general populace. The astronauts were silenced in
the usual manner, and all forthcoming broadcasts have not been live. Do humans reside in the installations on the
Moon? No. These were abandoned when Alternative 3 was abandoned.
Ambassadors from the Service-to-Self orientation reside in 3rd Density on the Moon when they are not out and about
on the surface of the Earth, responding to The Call as given by various humans. Ourselves, the Zetas, live in 3rd
Density directly on the surface of the Earth, as has been explained, and do not reside in 3rd Density on Mars or the
Moon or any other planet in your Solar System that you are currently aware of, including the Earth's dead twin
orbiting opposite the Earth. We were not involved in the Alternative 3 installations, as we are the Service-to-Other
Zetas. The two groups do not mix.
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ZetaTalk: Immunization
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ZetaTalk: Immunization
Note: written on Oct 15, 1997
The Gulf War Syndrome is a direct results of infection injected into the servicemen under the guise of immunizing
them. The deliberate exposure of these men to biological warfare elements and burning petroleum was to disguise this
infection. As has been noted during investigation of the causes of Gulf War Syndrome, the officers in charge were
many times deliberately lax in enforcing safety measures, which was no accident. The CIA, as with most of the
deliberate infection of what is termed undesirables by the New World Order, was at the fore in this escapade. The
purpose of this mass infection of unsuspecting foot soldiers was to measure the rate and speed of debility, which has
proved disappointing to those who would eliminate large blocks of the US population ahead of the cataclysms. As
might be expected, these blocks would be inner city blacks and Hispanic populations, considered aggressive and/or
unproductive by the elite.
There is much awareness of these plans in the collective consciousness, and thus specific warnings have been issued on
occasion. However, the immunization programs being conducted to date have not had any live infectious agents in
them, nor are they being used as a means of tagging the populace. Where this might be the hope of the New World
Order crowd, immunization programs today involve a large number of pharmaceutical companies and distributors, to
say nothing of local doctors working out of clinics. Deliberate infectious agents would surface, and work against any
future plans to use this route. Identifying chips are also not yet invented. These would have to be tiny, yet carry their
own transmitting mechanism. A dream, unlikely to be realized in the few remaining years before the cataclysms.
Deliberate infection via immunization shots should not be guarded against until the military becomes involved in these
programs. At this point such injections are likely to be based on voluntary programs, so as to avoid riot and rebellion,
within camps set up to house the indigent. Those who can live independently and have prepared are unlikely to
encounter such campaigns.
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ZetaTalk: Inoculations
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ZetaTalk: Inoculations
Note: written on Dec 15, 2001
There are some elements of the US government who long for this means of eliminating unwanted human baggage.
There are also many countries, industrialized as well as Third World, who are closely watching this play out, as they
also would like to use such a solution. However, the complications today outweigh the rewards:
1. Unless announced to a broad segment of society, the inoculations might afflict the families and loved ones of
the elite, or the elite themselves. Being able to steer the public to certain inoculation batches is difficult.
2. The virus in the inoculations intended to infect and disable the unwanted segment of the public can escape, be
passed from person to person, and like AIDS and Ebola, get out of hand.
3. At present, mass illness would overwhelm the public health system, and take too many workers out of the work
force, causing discomfort to the elite who rely on the wheels of commerce going on as before for their wealth
and comfort.
Thus, those contemplating this get too many arguments thrown at them every time they suggest it, and the matter gets
endlessly deferred to the future. By the time that the pole shift is upon these elite power mongers, there will not be
time to muster such an operation. Thus, it is unlikely to occur, except in isolated settings where the elite are fearful of
panic and demands, and nothing more is to be gained from the public to be po
isoned by inoculations. At this time, in
2001, inoculations should be considered safe. Gulf War syndrome was a deliberate test, the poisons and germs not
present in the general inoculations given to the public. Thus, follow the advice of doctors, and your own common
sense. They are as safe as they were last year, or a decade ago, etc. The key to look for is a great press by the
government or administering body to take the inoculations, and the setting where the public has grown restless and
demanding, with the pole shift just around the corner.
Note: below written during the July 27, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
The US Military is feared, by their leaders, as they could go rogue, in pieces, and thus much discussion has occurred
about how to restrain them. This is not unlike the discussions in the halls of power in all countries, re keeping the
military as well as the common man in control. Most countries feed them well, pay them off, offer them spoils, to keep
the military in line. In other countries, they are offered a piece of the action, of power, and sit at the side of the
leadership. The US during the Gulf War, under the direction of another Bush not to be trusted, poisoned their military
personnel flagrantly. This was a test like the chemtrails, to see what germs might sicken, and weaken. This did not go
well, and has instead infected the US Military with suspicion, so that there is resistance even in the public to taking
inoculations.
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ZetaTalk: Medical Implants
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ZetaTalk: Medical Implants
Note: written on May 15, 2002
Imagine a government such as the Bush Administration, pondering the coming pole shift. They are not certain it will
happen as we have defined, but note our other predictions have played out and are wary enough to be stockpiling food
stuffs and beefing up the military to use as their personal defense force, or so they hope. They are wary enough to be
