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ZetaTalk: Transformation

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by Nancy Lieder


  and a reddish object is visible in the daytime sky. The fact that this appears, is where, and when and what we said it would be, will consume their consciousness.

  Those who have prepared, have a remote spot to go where clean water and some food from farmlands or

  wilderness might be gotten, will still be consumed with regret, grief, indecision as to just when to move to safety

  and cut ties with the old life.

  Those who have not prepared, have been simply watching and waiting for certain signs or a hoped for failure of

  these signs to manifest, indicating a mistake on Nancy's part or a fraud, will go into stunned shock. All that they

  have delayed, all the many parts they have failed to put into place, will come to haunt them. They will, in most

  cases, be hysterical, rushing about, pleading with others, and making mistakes in their haste.

  Those who have not considered will be learning, perhaps for the first time, that this reddish object in the skies

  was predicted, by ZetaTalk, and will be reading and absorbing the impact to their lives, with scarcely another

  though besides what this will mean to their lives.

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  ZetaTalk: Debate

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  ZetaTalk: Debate

  Note: written during the Jan 25, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

  One of the surest ways for parents to get their children to assume responsibility, get involved, is not to be ever-present or overactive. A bit of benign neglect allows a leadership vacuum, and lo, in steps a child who is tired of waiting,

  taking up the task! This does more than simply get another to do a task, as once a child starts assuming responsibility, they start to enjoy it, take pride in the outcome, and this action continues. Natural leaders emerge during distressing

  times when no leadership seems forthcoming. These leaders may in fact be better than the official leaders, but not wanting to be disruptive, hold back and take support roles instead of assuming leadership. In a void, this social

  politeness is not necessary, and a new leader is born! This is all to say that a parent, or leader, wanting more

  involvement from the community, can arrange this best by not being utterly involved, answering every question, doing every task, but by being absent.

  Now, given the imaging ongoing during the Fall of 2002 and into the early weeks of 2003, how does this apply? The

  Sighting TEAM is small, consisting of Steve, Pierre, JWilliam and Naji, in that order joining the TEAM. Nancy

  determines what will go on her web site, but has been wanting, and expressing the hope, that many web sites would emerge and many sources of images would emerge, for some months. She is, frankly, tired of the time required on her

  part, and the increasing demands for interviews are only going to increase, which should, in her view, be her primary

  role. JWilliam and Pierre have their own web sites, often in opposition to what other TEAM members state, or in

  opposition to what Nancy and ourselves state, and this has never been a problem.

  And why not? From the start of the Fall 2002 viewing season, and even prior to that if one reads the pages in the

  Sighting TEAM section, there has been debate and disagreement. This has never been suppressed, despite the hope of

  the debunking crowd that the ZetaCult or ZetaDrone title would stick. We, the Zetas, have never asked for more than

  that man be informed, and think, and look, and come to their own individual conclusions. This has been stated from day one of ZetaTalk, and is immersed in the body of ZetaTalk, throughout. At the start of the Fall 2002 viewing

  season, it was the mode, established by Nancy who is of a like mind with us, to allow the public to see the debate

  among the TEAM members. We thus had Jan's candidate, Charles candidate, etc. and at the end of several days of

  debate, our opinion. We held off on this opinion to encourage debate, to collect this debate, and it was not only the final Zeta statement that went onto the web, but the debate.

  Why? Because this is exactly the type of debate that should be on sci.astro, not endless insults that ZetaTalk is a Nazi or CIA or NASA front, or whatever, insults and adolescent quips that the public long since tired of to the extent that

  they no longer read sci.astro directly but go to the ZetaTalk website for a summary of what is worth reading! This was, of course, the reason for the press early last summer to have Nancy put all posting for a thread on her web site, an

  obvious organized campaign as the email Nancy received on this matter were form letters, filled in! This is an

  immensely important issue, none more important, to mankind at this time. This is in the skies at this time, available to amateurs, and should be the main topic on the sci.astro and related Usenets, not in the grip of paid debunkers, who seem to number only a dozen or so! Where is the public in all of this! Where is the debate! This is what we are trying

  to encourage, and if our word on just which spot is it is always quickly forthcoming, then debate is stifled!

  Thus, we have increasingly held back, especially since it is evident that the White Persona is on path with the

  coordinates, and the Red Persona is subject to bending toward whatever side the core of the Earth is, at the time. Those in the southern hemisphere can figure this out, for them, etc. Likewise, we have allowed Nancy to look foolish, the latest session last Sunday when she shared her bumbling on asteroids with the public, shamelessly. The TEAM,

  politely, informed her she was wrong, and she will post this to the web site during her day off tomorrow. This is not

  the first time we allowed, encouraged, Nancy to stumble, to show the process, to be egoless in this manner, as this

  encourages others to do likewise! The teacher who is perfect, insists they are perfect and cannot make a mistake,

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  creates a suppression in the classroom where students are afraid to raise their hand. The teacher who is tolerant of their

  own mistakes, the process of exploration, finds the classroom buzzing! Thus, we expect, and hope, that if man is

  uncertain, and Nancy is imperfect, that debate will ensue, which it should!

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  ZetaTalk: Disclosure

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  ZetaTalk: Disclosure

  written October 29, 2009

  There is the rumor that Obama will give a speech to the world population on all TV channels on Nov 27.

  Anything true in this rumor? What will he speak about?

  Disclosure has been gradual, country by We predicted at the start of ZetaTalk that

  country, the most recent reported to be

  sightings would be on the increase, and

  Sweden. This trend will continue. We

  they have increased. The major media is

  have explained that any mass landing, or now reporting these incidences, allowing

  well publicized contact between aliens

  the public to see the videos and photos

  and humans, will not occur. This is due

  and hear the full reports of the witnesses,

  to the rule that the Awakening must be

  where formerly this was not done. That

  gradual, and not induce extreme anxiety

  there is a weak protest from some

  in the populace. Contactees are on the

  government agency, some flimsy excuse

  increase, and mass sightings likewise on of what it might be, should be ignored.

  the increase. Periodically there are

  The public is not f
ooled. Classified

  predictions about some sort of coming

  documents will never be released, unless

  out where aliens will stride in front of TV discovered blowing in the wind after the

  cameras and all will be known. This is

  pole shift. But you don't need these to be

  not how it will happen.

  released to know the truth.

  ZetaTalk Prediction 5/9/2009

  ZetaTalk Prediction 1/26/2008

  The alien presence has been denied for

  It is not the difficulty in explaining the

  decades, since the time of Roswell, and

  alien presence that is holding back full

  aggressively so. The individuals who

  disclosure. It is fear among the elite that

  perpetrated this cover-up are still in the

  they will fall from grace, from their lofty

  main alive, and do not want egg on their perch. Certainly, an admission that

  faces. What would they say to the public, intelligent life exists elsewhere would not

  that the common man could not take the

  require a full discussion about the

  information without going insane or into pending passage of Planet X and its

  a panic? This is laughable in view of the potential destruction. But UFOs have

  large number of mass sightings which

  been called "swamp gas" and the like for

  have only resulted in curiosity and

  decades with a softening of the stance of

  increased desire for contact. To save

  most governments only coming about

  face, these individuals demand that the

  lately because mass sightings have

  cover-up continue.

  become so common that the cover-up is

  ZetaTalk Prediction 5/2/2009

  ridiculed by their public.

  ZetaTalk Analysis 5/24/2008

  As one country after another opened their UFO files, one stood apart - the United States, the country with the most

  official information on the existence of the alien presence. During the life of MJ12 the US had extensive contact with

  aliens, and examined their ships. The US has relics from that era, including mummified alien bodies. But where the

  US has the most to present to the world, has proof positive, they are the also the most reluctant. We have stated, when repeatedly asked about this issue in the past, that such disclosure would deeply embarrass those officials who were at

  the forefront of denial over the decades. In that the highly popular and well known ZetaTalk website holds proof of a

  kind in the ZetaTalk Accuracy record, there is an additional fear. If the alien presence is acknowledged, then is the

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  presence of Planet X and the reality of a pending pole shift also being acknowledged?

  Note in the February 14, 2008 report by a French participant of a UN meeting on disclosure, that the Earth changes

  were mentioned. It is not just the reaction of the public to the reality of alien visitors that the establishment fears. The

  populace is already aware of this from their frequent sightings of UFOs. It is "testimonies of individuals claiming to

  have first hand knowledge about UFO's, extraterrestrial life, and future global events" that is to be feared, and these

  individuals debunked as "charlatans". What else but the pending pole shift would cause the anticipated "dramatic

  economic impact that could lead to recessions in some countries". Mass UFO sightings are already occurring, without

  economic impact. Clearly, they fear ZetaTalk, with its international fame and prediction accuracy track record,

  disseminated worldwide for over a decade. The Horizon Project boasted NASA and US contractors as members,

  purporting the Earth will meet devastation when it aligns with the galactic center. Project Camelot claims to host whistleblowers, those wanting the truth out about the alien presence, hosting Sergeant Major Robert Dean discussing

  the coming of Nibiru and his first hand knowledge of UFOs. Are these individual to be treated as "charlatans"?

  Will disclosure occur as predicted by various suedo-scientific personalities such as David Wilcock or Richard

  Hoagland? Since these individuals earn their living by claiming special insights into the alien presence, they wish to be

  on the media bandwagon should disclosure actually become a media event. We are here to inform them that such an

  event, predicted to include a White House announcement with an introduction of actual live aliens, will never occur,

  and certainly including Wilcock or Hoagland as parties has never been contemplated by the establishment. We have

  predicted that it is increasing mass sightings, increasing sightings of alien bodies, that will drive public awareness of

  the alien presence. Official disclosure by the US government is highly unlikely to occur, though they may back off

  some of their debunking campaigns. ZetaTalk accuracy has only begun to be demonstrated, and this trend will drive

  our words into increasing media attention. This is a prediction we have made from the start.

  Official Disclosure of Extraterrestrial Life is Imminent

  October 21, 2009

  http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m10d21-Official-disclosure-of-

  extraterrestrial-life-is-imminent

  The impending disclosure announcement follows upon the secret implementation of a year long

  openness policy on UFOs and extraterrestrial life. Over the period February 12-14, 2008, the

  United Nations held closed doors discussions where approximately 30 nations secretly agreed on a

  new openness policy on UFOs and extraterrestrial life in 2009. The openness policy was

  implemented but never publicly announced due to threats against UN diplomats not to disclose

  details of the secret agreement. The timing would most likely coincide sometime soon after his

  Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech on December 10, 2009 in Oslo, Norway. David Wilcock, a

  prominent researcher of emerging scientific paradigms claimed in a Coast to Coast AM radio

  interview that "a 2-hour international TV special has already been booked that will introduce an

  alien species, similar to humans, to the world." NASA and space researcher, Richard Hoagland

  concluded, also on the popular late night Coast to Coast AM radio show, that "LCROSS is part of a

  carefully constructed campaign to prepare the populace for imminent disclosure. Which ever of the

  above scenarios is used for announcing the existence of extraterrestrial life or technology, President

  Obama will figure prominently.

  French Expert Publicly Emerges to Confirm Secret United Nations Meeting on UFO's

  February 14, 2008

  http://exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-67.htm

  A French aviation expert has come forward to reveal his participation in a secret meeting held at

  the United Nations New York headquarters that discussed the UFO phenomenon from February 12-

  14. Lorant revealed that a series of UN meetings were held over a three day period. In the meetings

  there was discussion of a confidential report, prepared by the U.S. Air Force and a branch of the

  National Guard, concerning the societal impact of UFO sightings. The initial meeting was held on

  February 12 and, according to Lorant's report, led to a request by three U.S. Senators for further

  discussions. Additional meetings were held immediately after on February 13 and 14. The

  implication is that three U.S. Senators attended the secret UN meetings. The meetings were very

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  concerned about social upheaval from continued UFO sightings and the testimonies of individuals

  claiming to have first hand knowledge about UFO's, extraterrestrial life, and future global events. It

  was reported that adverse public reactions to UFO sightings could have a dramatic economic

  impact that could lead to recessions in some countries. 2009 was raised as the year when an

  important change in official attitudes concerning the UFO phenomenon could be made. The

  meetings results suggest that an official change in government policy from 'debunking' to 'openness'

  concerning UFO's would lead to official approval to narrowly define study of the UFO

  phenomenon. However, those claiming to have first hand experience of extraterrestrial life would be

  targeted as charlatans.

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  ZetaTalk: Russia

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  ZetaTalk: Russia

  Note: written during the Jul 6, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

  Russian, as the US, has been in the know since the early days of MJ12, being a partner in space, and brought into the

  fold long before the end of the Cold War. Being in space, first, with Sputnik, and Mir, they of course saw space ships

  and were well aware of the alien presence many decades ago, without doubt. Thus, they were conferred with, and even

  though enemies on the ground, in economic circles, and in culture clashes, at the highest levels they conferred. They

  could, should they wish to embarrass Bush, reveal much, but in doing so they would open their own cultures and

  economies to panic, thus they stay their hands in this regard. They have been watching Planet X, in their observatories,

  with their satellites, and as with NASA and the Pope, seeing our predictions re its path and speed of approach

  actualizing.

  Thus, they have made their plans too, for a bunker government, a carry-on government. It is no secret that the Urals

  will remain well above water, and has been a site of intellectual and scientific personnel for some decades. It is no

 

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