ZetaTalk: Pole Shift

by Nancy Lieder

  chooses to state started only because of 911, in fact was in process as soon as Bush sole the White House. This is a

  common ploy, among those assigning themselves leadership in countries, to point to war and threats from the outside.

  War is not going to be profitable, for anyone, other than as a threat, so we suspect this is where the issue will remain.

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  WW 3 will not occur, though there will be threats of this endlessly going into the shift. The reason, as we have stated,

  that full scale war will not break out between countries, is that none have a thing to gain from this. What has been

  occurring, though termed "war" by Bush, Jr. is not war, as it is a country against an element, a criminal element,

  perhaps a revolutionary element, but not another country. Many countries deal with revolution, Spain today, for

  instance, and do not call this "war". There are black markets, organized crime in the US and Italy and Russia, drug

  cartels, and this is not "war" though this word is used. To focus on issues at the border, as we have mentioned, is a

  time-honored way of shushing the populace, as they fear to divert the parent during troubling times. Countries use this

  to distract and quiet their populace when internal issues are distressing. Countries use this to avoid addressing these

  issues. If one wants to quiet a squabbling group of siblings, one announces that one of them, or then household, is

  under attack! Every mother can tell you that a united front is formed, and squabbles put aside. Thus, we predict that

  threats, and saber rattling will occur, but not war.

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  ZetaTalk: Financial Freeze

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  ZetaTalk: Financial Freeze

  Note: written on Dec 15, 1999.

  When the markets start to tumble, they will tumble rapidly and may move in many directions. There may be financial

  freezes maintained, such that the financial status quo at a given point in time and the cash value of moneys of different

  countries are not allowed to float freely. It’s essentially like stopping an elevator from moving up or down. It simply

  doesn’t move after that point in time. Black markets of course will develop, but they develop somewhat slowly, not

  overnight. So this kind of enforced freeze, in essence a martial law of the financial field, can be maintained for many

  months, even years, and be somewhat effective. This is a likely outcome. This is already happening on the stock

  market where a run on a stock is stopped by a closure of the stock markets. They cease the trading until some time has

  passed, and this is a forerunner of what is to come.

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  ZetaTalk: Market Crash

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  ZetaTalk: Market Crash

  Note: written on Dec 15, 1999.

  In any game there are winners and losers. Between the present and when there will surely be a crash of banks that

  cannot be sustained and the barter system essentially returns, there is an end game in play. This end game is being laid

  out on the money markets and has many players wishing to gain the upper hand and maintain the upper hand. This is

  in the hands of humans - many different governments and many different banks and many different wealthy

  individuals who are either cooperating with each other or planning to stab each other in the back and pull the rug out

  from each other. Therefore, given this, the game could tumble in many different directions. But one thing is clear:

  there are perhaps half a dozen international banks, very heavily moneyed, which would never be out of the running or

  powerless in this game.

  Today, they are maintaining confidence in what may be termed the working man. They wish the populace to be

  unconcerned, to feel a sense of comfort, that the good times are with them, and not to look about and notice what some

  are saying - that emergency stores are empty and crops are failing and the stock market is over-inflated. They wish the

  populace to be dull, lethargic, and spending money, because much of the stability of an economy is based on

  confidence. In fact, without confidence, most governments and financial structures would fail and fail rapidly. So

  confidence is kept pumped up as long as this can be maintained. Most stocks are inflated beyond their value, very few

  are not, and they can fall to 1/4 of their value before they settle with the public feeling they have some confidence in

  the stock and that it cannot be worth less. This is a huge drop. For the wealthy, who are living a well cushioned life, it

  doesn’t put them out on the street, but for some people who are living on their savings, it would mean a change of

  lifestyle and may mean that they are destitute or desperate.

  Note: below added during the Jun 1, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

  We are frequently asked to pin point the moment of collapse, which of course will not be a moment but a series of

  moments, when this or that leg under the table breaks, and finally a corner drops, slipping the table top contents onto

  the floor, and finally the table itself drops. Beyond that this will be a series of steps, and is in the hands of man, due to

  the general rule that we are not to interfere with mankind’s free will. Very seldom can we interfere, and then within

  strict bounds. For instance, we can describe in general terms that it will collapse, not when. For instance, we can

  describe the quakes and volcanic eruptions that will occur leading up to the shift, not when for an area. Do we warn

  you today, about a volcanic eruption, a tornado, a broken rail line, or a stock inflated beyond real worth? No! Nor do

  we cure your cancer, rescue you from floods, or feed you when you are starving. Thus, expect no more going into the

  shift than you get now, from aliens, or good spirits, or angels or whatever you call them.

  Note: below added during the Jul 20, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

  Up until the present, the US Stock Market, leading the world as the engine to pull the world out of a global slump, has

  maintained its position by stealth. Confidence is the name of the game, and confidence was maintained not only by

  talk-up from market analysts, but also by the value of stock on the market. Value on the market equates to what the

  buyer is willing to pay! And thus, if poor stock has buyers, then it has worth. Thus, those end-of-day rallies that have

  often occurred during the past couple years were designed, to raise expectations for the next day. Stock that dropped

  was viewed differently by the morning, by all the analysts that take into consideration the buyers willingness to buy,

  and the market off and away again, raising and soaring.

  What happened then, this past week, that such a dramatic drop occurred with few stops. This in spite of assertion on

  heavyweights that all was well, and no need for new SEC controls or inspections. The trend overwhelmed the counter-

  trends, with those buying bad stock doing so, but the overwhelming numbers of such stock simply causing this to be

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  ZetaTalk: Market Crash

  negated. What does this mean? That the prediction we have made, since late 1999, of a market crash to the extent that

  stock would drop to 1/4 of its former value, the market in general at this point, will soon occur. If poor stock cannot be

  bought u
p in sufficient quantity, a point reached now, then it will be evident to the public that poor stock is poor, and

  confidence allowed to drop to the level the company profits and performance deserve. Thus, hold onto your seats, as

  the drop will occur rapidly, now, and the barter system begin to replace the monetary system.

  The real estate bubble will likewise burst when the current weather problems and lack of insurance coverage prove this

  to be hollow. The percent of the workforce to be affected is already increasing, and look to the Depression era,

  worldwide, for expected results. During the coming depression, which is in fact in place but denied by the media and

  powers that be, one should look to the past Great Depression as an example of things to come. Banks were insolvent,

  but allowed to operate, not called in. Homeowners and businesses were insolvent, unable to pay, but not called to

  term, allowed to continue. The reasoning was that there was no one to buy these insolvent entities, so why discontinue

  their operations! Thus, those insolvent entities were allowed to continue, and gradually came back into solvency, and

  thus business was reestablished. During the coming crash, this will repeat itself, but with a difference. There will be no

  re-solvency, no new health, but the shift, instead.

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  ZetaTalk: Crash Impact

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  Note: written on Dec 15, 1999.

  Of course, we advise people that since the barter system is the end result, to put their money into goods that can be

  bartered, into things like land that does not lose its value, because all else will. This includes jewels, coins, bonds,

  anything that is based on something other than substance has the potential of failing. As to which countries will prevail

  and which not, this somewhat depends on their international reach. Those countries that have a broad international

  reach, and tentacles in other countries, are like someone caught in a net. They will not fall that far unless all are falling.

  The countries that will fare the best, and have the strongest dollar, are those that will have the least severe impact from

  crop shortages or the inability of commerce to proceed.

  Japan has a broad reach, tentacles into all other countries and banking systems. It would not be allowed to fail if others

  were failing, simply because it would drag the others down. However, as the island itself does not produce much of its

  raw materials but requires them to be imported, when it becomes a time when no one has money to buy manufactured

  goods, the imports will suffer, and there will be much inner turmoil on the island. The yen is likely to suffer against

  the dollar in this regard. China will be severely impacted. It already has trouble feeding its populace, and where the

  China bear was about to roar, it will shrivel down to the mew of a kitten and not again be heard from.

  The US and some countries in Europe are attempting to maintain their strong hold based on their rich resources. This

  may or may not succeed, but will probably keep them, in the case of the US, somewhat head and shoulders above the

  others, so that as they all are sinking you will still see the head of the US above. The grain belt, and the agriculture

  from the southeast is varied enough to give them a leg to stand on. In many cases in Europe, the population is pushing

  the limits of what the land can sustain, and they will suffer in the same way that Japan may suffer.

  Third world countries that are suffering from crop shortages because of drought or deluges, will find that they become

  a non-entity and experience in essence the dark ages of commerce rapidly, retreating backward to a level they were 50

  to 100 years ago, as though their progress had never occurred. The desert areas will essentially not be heard from, the

  Sudan, Iraq and Iran. Starvation will be great and media coverage little. Other than some saber rattling as they fall into

  a death march into starvation, they will not be a player.

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  ZetaTalk: Mayan Calendar

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  ZetaTalk: Mayan Calendar

  Note: written on Dec 15, 1995. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.

  The Mayan calendar is not so much incorrect as misunderstood. The calendar is derived from calendars and plotting

  methods left behind by the hominoid visitors from the 12th Planet. There are and were many calendars in operation,

  the western calendar of 365 days with an occasional leap year is only one such method. Dates, when plotted according

  to one calendar method, do not always line up exactly when translated to another calendar. However, the primary

  difficulty in interpreting the Mayan calendar is determining the correct starting point. One may be accurate in

  calculating the number of days, months, and years between events, but unless the starting point is precisely known, the

  end point is questionable. Thus there are various interpretations on when the Mayan calendar ends, albeit this rather

  obviously coincides with the coming millennium. We have given the correct dates for the return of the 12th Planet as

  the year 2003 [Note: see 2003 Date explanation] for the devastating first pass. All other dates are incorrect.

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  ZetaTalk: May 5, 2000

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  ZetaTalk: May 5, 2000

  Note: written on Aug 15, 1996.

  Periodically the planets in orbit around the Earth's Sun near each other during their sojourns, and at rare times they

  appear to stretch in a line out from the Sun, gravitationally pulling on the Earth, some humans suspect, from both

  sides. Does this affect the Earth? Well of course it does, and if the influence had left much of an impression on

  mankind this would be recorded as a regular event. Tides are a little stronger, and the Earth's orbit is a tad more

  pronounced on one side, but except for astronomers, mankind is blissfully unaware. Will the coming alignment cause a

  pole shift, the weight of the ice laden poles pulling toward the lineup of outer planets? This silly argument is not even

  logical, and is given weight only because the true cause of pole shifts, the 12th Planet, is out of view between

  cataclysms and generally forgotten. Survivors, picking up the pieces and trying not to starve to death, had more on

  their minds than recording the event in more than verbal horror stories told to one another when seeking solace.

  The gravity pull of the giant gaseous planets, even when they line up and all pull like so many men along a rope in a

  tug-of-war, is a fraction of a fraction of the gravity pull of the Sun. During half the year an ice laden pole on one side

  of the Earth or the other is leaning toward the Sun, and if inclined to move the crust of the Earth toward a gravity pull,

  this is when that would occur. Do not the ice laden poles continue to increase in weight until the Earth is out of

  balance? A simple calculation on the structure of the surface of the Earth would show that land masses such as the

  combined mass of Russia and China or such major continents as Africa or the Americas, made of thick rock and

  soaring mountains in places, far outweigh the majority of the Earth's surface where waters pool in low-lying areas. Do

  these inequities cause po
le shifts?

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  ZetaTalk: Precision

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  Note: written on Feb 15, 2000. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.

  Precision is difficult in these matters, as all is in motion and affects the exact outcome. This is similar to an inbound

  hurricane, where one can state the path and wind speed, but there are uncertainties as to whether a dam will break or

  an ocean going vessel will decides to move into or out of a port in the hurricane's path. A city may be safe or

  devastated based on these occurrences. For the pole shift, what is in motion is:

  1. the 12th Planet, which will stick to the path computed as the factors involved are based on astronomy and not

  subject to change.

  2. the location of the earth at the time, which can vary slightly as to what part of the Earth is facing the 12th Planet.

  Where this will be the Atlantic rift, the exact point of stoppage depends upon the speed of rotation as it

  approaches the stoppage, and this speed is dependent upon swirling in the core, what parts of the core are near or

  far from the Atlantic rifts as the moment of stoppage approaches.

  3. the shift itself, which will start at an uncertain moment due to the exact part of the Atlantic rift facing the 12th

  Planet not being known. Thus, it may start a tad earlier or later, based on the strength of magnetism on the

  earth's surface facing the approaching 12th.

  4. the shift stoppage, which will vary according to the speed of the shift. This will be forceful or more gentle

  depending upon the magnetic influences not only on what part of the earth is facing the 12th as it approaches, but

  also on what magnetic components in the swirling core are facing or afar from the 12th as it approaches.

  Thus, the exact placement of the new North and South poles is difficult to pinpoint, but the general placement can be

  estimated.

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