ZetaTalk: Aftertime Living

by Nancy Lieder

  Note: written by Jul 15, 1995

  After the cataclysms, religions of the world will enjoy both an increase and decrease in popularity. Some humans,

  bewildered by what has happened, will cling to their religions. Some humans will assume that human actions have

  caused the shift, which they will interpret as a punishment. Scapegoats will be selected from their midst, and

  sacrificed. Other humans will attempt to modify their behavior, to placate what they assume to be angry gods. In the

  main, these practices will occur among ignorant or weak peoples, and in truth these practices occur today. Regarding

  religion, whatever trend was occurring within a given human will continue, or exacerbate. Those humans who today

  think for themselves will move more in that direction, finding that their religion does not give guidance and is not

  coming to grips with the situation.

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  ZetaTalk: Other Explanations

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  ZetaTalk: Survivor

  Note: written Sep 15, 2001

  The Survivor show is a brainchild of the major TV networks, in response to a request floated out to them from the

  establishment to mentally prepare the populace for drastic changes that would challenge their mind-set and ability to

  survive. How could such a request be made, to major media networks, and not be discussed broadly in the news? The

  manner in which the establishment influences the media - which includes TV, radio, movies, magazines, and

  newspaper articles - is not bold-faced and with accreditation. It is subtle, passed from a high level government official to a high level executive, both of whom could be expected to keep their mouths tightly zipped. Thus requested, the

  executive has a brain-storming session, and leans in the direction of the request during the ideas that are laid forth. The staff then thinks this their idea, and promotes it all the more heavily because of this. Their idea should be a success!

  The basis of the Survivor show, as well as movies showing various Earth-threatening situations such as volcanoes or

  meteors or asteroid, is to numb the populace to such scenarios. Think of the horrors the populace encounters regularly

  - tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, cancer, child kidnappings, automobile wrecks that leave the survivors maimed. When

  such horrors are discussed over coffee break or at the bar, they are treated as something that cannot be avoided, cannot be planned for, but just must be borne. By displaying such situations as Earth threatening disasters or bare-bones survival situations where a member of the group must be ejected so the rest can survive, the populace is being asked to consider such dire situations, and have the likelihood be accepted, and to become numb.

  Take a look at old TV series, old movies, and magazine articles that appears some 20-30 years ago. Do you see such

  scenarios? What changed? The reality of the inbound 12th Planet, the likely pole shift, and the fact that the elite have realized the cannot escape Earth, but must live here with the masses, through this and afterwards!

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  ZetaTalk: Self Sufficient

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  ZetaTalk: Self Sufficient

  Note: written Apr 15, 1999.

  The Year 2000 crisis is also a paper dragon, one of many being used by the establishment to distract the populace from

  the real danger. Many such distractions, such as the Presidential impeachment, are simply to draw people away from

  the real concerns. Some disasters during the Year 2000 crisis will prove to be almost entirely man-made and could

  have been prevented. They have been seeded. Not enough to cause terrible disasters, but enough to put some weight

  behind the message so that people will start to take these kind of warnings seriously. The message is to rely on the self.

  What if the grid were to be down? What if the stores were to be empty? Start to think. They are trying to get the

  populace used to these kind of thoughts. Some of the difficulty with eating beef, some of the scares like mad cow

  disease and e-coli, are designed to force people to turn away from a high meat diet and return to a vegetable based

  diet, which is of course more efficient. Why feed the cow when you can feed yourself. You really don't need the

  protein that you're stuffing into your mouths. Look at the Orient, where they make do with very little, a tad of fish in the rice.

  The populace is being manipulated in many ways to become more self reliant. The faster they move in that direction,

  the more honest the government will be with them. Those of good heart in the government cannot tell the populace the

  bad news, as the arguments about what to do with panic are too shrill. But if the populace is preparing, if they are

  gardening and are prepared to take the bad news, those in the government who want to warn people will bravely step

  forth and begin to give it give these warnings to the populace. There are those in the government that agonize over the games that are being played, who cannot sleep at night and find it hard to live with themselves. But unless the populace is prepared to help itself, unless an alternative to panic exists, the games will go on. The basis for a lack of panic is the sense that there is an alternative, that the populace is preparing to be self sufficient.

  There will be no security blanket that the populace can rely upon, so self reliance must be the rule. The panic that will settle into governments as the time approaches, when each individual will be dealing with their own personal panic and

  anxieties, is completely unpredictable. It may run in all manner of directions. The movies that have been put out of

  late, where asteroids are falling and a calm prevails, and the government is like a rock of logic and quietly empties

  towns or flies people up to blow up asteroids, is so far from the truth as to be ludicrous. You will have your military running down the halls and bumping into each other; leaving their posts, turning guns on themselves and others. It is

  totally unpredictable. What will a frightened animal do when cornered? Well, your entire government and

  bureaucracies will turn into that in the last few months. So the populace should not look to them, but rather look to

  themselves.

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  ZetaTalk: High Tech

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  ZetaTalk: High Tech

  Note: written Jan 15, 2001

  Survivors will find that they have a mix of experiences. This will range from people being plunged into what is

  essentially a Third World existence - straw and mud, eating what you can catch and kill, and hoping to cook it well

  enough not to get ill - to being very high tech in communities that are established with enough money and expertise

  and skill to have banks of batteries, radios and antennas, windmills and generators driven by gasoline or something

  that can be burned, and food stocks. So there will be a wide range of survival communities shortly after the shift.

  However, this will change over time. Those communities that find themselves scratching in the dirt and living a most

  primitive life may find, if they are spiritually of the right nature, being Service-to-Other, that they encounter people who are odd looking - seem to be bald and not wish to linger and have a conversation, but drop things off. What’s

  this? It appears to be a battery. What’s that? It appears to be a sack of food or seed. One thing leads to the next, and after awhile these mute, bald neighbo
rs will be interacting regularly and these human survivors will find they are living a very high tech existence with remarkable neighbors. They will accept this because desperation fosters acceptance of

  solutions.

  The high tech communities of humans, who in many cases will be enclaves of the rich, who have used their wealth and

  power to carve out an area whose perimeter they can protect with the military which will become mercenaries to the

  rich in such situations, will find they do not get this type of assistance. What happens in these communities, then, when the stores run out, when there’s no more fuel to run the generator, when there’s no more bags of food and canned

  goods to feed the community? Arguments break out. The mercenaries are hardly going to take orders from the idle rich

  when they have no power or authority and can’t supply them with money or goods or anything of value. These

  pampered rich people will be slaughtered, and sometimes in unpleasant ways, by their angry mercenaries, who in many

  cases have thug tendencies and enjoy cruel games. So now we have gangs, chewing down everything they can get their

  hands on and then going on the loose after there is nothing more to eat. These types of people are not prone to plan and work with each other, so growing crops and gardens and the like is the least of their thoughts, but looting is. But when they go on the loose, they will in fact be turned away from enclaves of good hearted people, in the many ways we are

  able to deflect knowledge and attention. We can be in the room with you, and you don’t see us. Likewise, a gang of

  thugs can pass by a good-hearted survival community and not see it, because we have prevented them from seeing it.

  So these gangs of thugs will die out, and the enclaves of the wealthy will become true hell-holes, something they don’t anticipate.

  Survival communities of good-hearted folk will become high tech, due to interactions with aliens who have a

  technology many thousands of times superior to the technology that your human cultures now enjoy. But it will not be

  the technology of Homo Sapiens today. It will be better than that.

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  ZetaTalk: Characteristics

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  ZetaTalk: Characteristics

  Note: written Jan 15, 2001

  During the Transformation, groups of humans will not be separated entirely by orientation at first. This is due to the

  mix of orientations in human society today, done deliberately to facilitate 3rd Density choices among humans who

  must decide their orientation - Service-to-Self or Service-to-Others. Often, a highly Service-to-Self entity is placed to reincarnate into the arms of highly Service-to-Other parents, so that both can become familiar with their future

  situation, where clear polarizing of the orientations will occur. In 4th Density spiritual existence, where the

  orientations are separated, there is no mix except during those occasions where an engagement is agreed upon, and

  then those in the Service-to-Other meet highly Service-to-Self oriented entities, and vice versa. Thus, it is often

  deemed an education, a preparation, to mix these entities together in family or small communities, during 3rd Density

  life just prior to a Transformation.

  Thus, during the cataclysms, many highly Service-to-Other families or small communities may find they have a highly

  Service-to-Self child among them, or someone of this orientation who is physically dependent upon them in some way.

  Do they cast these young children or dependents aside, in order to become a fully Service-to-Other group? This is in

  conflict with the nature of those in the Service-to-Other, especially as there can be no certainty that the child or

  dependent person has truly decided on a Service-to-Self path. What if they are undecided, dithering, and abandonment

  would push them in the wrong direction? The Service-to-Other human wants to establish a tone of hope and caring, for

  all in the group. Should these individuals be punished, during the Aftertime, living in desperate circumstances without help from high tech hybrid communities, only because they are caring for some who are not fully Service-to-Other?

  There are rules visitors and hybrid communities are under, set by the Council of Worlds to ensure that the

  Transformation proceeds apace and is not delayed unnecessarily. The line where visitors or a community of hybrids

  can assist their human neighbors, or not, is determined by who controls the community of humans. We will give

  examples.

  If the community is led of a consensus of the adults, the majority of whom are Service-to-Other, assistance can

  be given. This community might include some highly self-focused adults, perhaps with young children whom

  those in the Service-to-Other orientation feel responsible for, and thus tolerate the adults parents for the sake of

  the children. However, these self-focused adults do not rule, or even influence, the course of affairs in the

  community.

  If the community is so mixed as to have as its leadership undecided adults, who are as prone to listen to self-

  focused arguments as arguments with a strong Service-to-Other motive, they cannot be given assistance. This

  line is drawn as these communities would then gain strength, which would surely be misused by those in the

  Service-to-Self in the group, who would take any high tech assistance to further their power over others. Worse

  yet, this high tech advantage would be used to conquer other groups of humans.

  After the Transformation, those in the Service-to-Self do have high tech advantage, but they are strictly quarantined from those in the Service-to-Others. This is controlled by the Council of Worlds, and prevents those in the Service-to-Self from conquering those they would make as their slaves. But during the Transformation process, where mixing can

  occur and frequently does occur, such a strict separation is not possible. Thus, where leadership is not under a Service-to-Other motive, these communities cannot have a technological advantage outside of that currently achieved in human

  society.

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  ZetaTalk: Sorted Out

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  ZetaTalk: Sorted Out

  Note: added during the May 3, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

  Life in a hybrid community would not be something desired in any but a highly Service-to-Other individual. We have

  stated that polarization will be natural, after the shift, with those undecided leaving highly Service-to-Other

  communities, for these same reasons. Those highly Service-to-Self naturally leave a group highly Service-to-Other

  when they cannot dominate or control them, as the incessant attention to others, to the well-being of others annoys

  them. In human society today, normal for 3rd Density existence where the orientation decision is the prime lesson to

  be determined, Service-to-Self can dominate others. They migrate to where this domination has the least resistance,

  among the weak, the young, etc. If in a situation where they cannot rule, dominate, they move on seeking a better

  setting. Thus, a man who smacks his wife and children about when they displease him, his endless demands for

  immediate satisfaction of his wants and needs, leaves this family if he comes under community surveillance or

  policing. He lines up a new wife, in another community, and starts this practice again.

  In the Aftertime, he will find these new communities so highly full of Service-to-Self that he will have competition, and be likely to be
the one abused himself. When he leaves and tries to insert himself into a Service-to-Other

  community, he will be rebuffed and sent elsewhere or will have to abide by rules that frustrate him in the extreme, so

  he leaves. If he finds an undecided community, he will try to reinstate what he recalls from his 3rd Density mixed past.

  Now, increasingly, the Service-to-Other will separate from the undecided, and certainly separate from the Service-to-

  Self. They will, in essence, disappear! They will thus leave the undecided to fend for themselves with the Service-to-

  Self, so the balance of Service-to-Self will increase, and the undecided then leaving this setting, slipping away,

  endlessly. Thus, the Aftertime setting will be

  1. disappearing Service-to-Other's,

  2. undecideds slipping away to form their own groups,

  3. Service-to-Self left with themselves only!

  Now, the undecideds will find their life much as it is today, in human society, regarding rules and societal

  expectations. The Service-to-Self will find life unlike what they recall, as they will be the picked upon where they expect to be the dominant person, but this is experience in preparation for their next lifetimes, so just as well. And the Service-to-Other will find they are meeting new neighbors, the hybrids and other visitors from elsewhere.

  What is life like, in these hybrid communities, that Service-to-Other desire this and others do not? We have mentioned

  this already within the body of ZetaTalk, but will list the highlights again. There are no secrets! Telepathic knowledge of the others, their needs, their desires, their thoughts, is utter and open. This means that you are aware of anothers needs, and can respond, but this also means that unlike human society today, others are aware of your resentments,

  your jealousies, and those thoughts you might like to keep secret. There is a sharing of resources, and workloads, so

  that what needs to be done is addressed, rather than what someone might have planned for their day. This means that your personal agenda, your mission where you will be the star and can feel accomplished, might not be what is considered important! Perhaps you planned to continue writing your book, but must put this aside to harvest fish. An