ZetaTalk: Government

by Nancy Lieder

  and his handlers reasoned that this could not be denied by the UN or the world, and they anticipated the usual response

  from Iraq - refusal. Thus, Bush et al assumed they had a sure press into war, as

  1. the UN could not deny their resolutions had been ignored

  2. Iraq would refuse, and

  3. Bush could bully all into allowing the US to act in their stead.

  When Iraq, after intensive consultation with Russia and the Saudis, determined how best to tangle Bush in his own

  words, they put Bush into another, rather obvious, mode. Bush et al now stated that regardless of inspections, Iraq

  needed a regime change, which was never stated in former UN resolutions, and reveled in fact the Bush

  administrations true gasping fingers and goal. They have no plan for running Iraq after a regime change, except to

  allow Cheney to run the oil fields. What will come of this reversal on Iraq's part?

  As this is still in the hands of man, it could run in many directions, but we expect the economic issues to delay any

  actual confrontation. The economy, and the US Stock Market, are very fragile, much more so than the current

  indicators indicate, and heavy crashing is at hand. Companies going belly up have at first only an impact on those laid

  off, but then a domino effect start, and other companies must adjust their earnings projections, and likewise lay off and

  go bankrupt. This is not a linear effect, but an explosive effect, going round the world. Those inclined to go to the US

  poles are those with the greatest worries, and the little man, voting Democratic, will be in the majority this Fall. Many

  Republicans are pressing Bush to address the economy, which he is refusing to do until an Iraq resolution passes

  Congress. He again puts himself into a bind, silly arrogant man that he is, and will allow the Republicans to go on

  record as not caring, until a spiral downward in the Stock Market is so horrific that he will, once again after 911, look

  like he knew, but did nothing. Thus, we predict that Iraq, and inspections, will win this game of chess, cleverly run by those out to defeat the Bush administration at their own games.

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  ZetaTalk: Anti-War Protests

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  ZetaTalk: Anti-War Protests

  Note: written during the Feb 15, 2003 IRC Session

  Anti-war protests against the US intent are sincere and emerging for many reasons. This war has been painted by the

  war mongers as one to liberate the country, when occupation will result. The war has been painted as one that will be

  over quickly, when this is never the case, tens of thousands of lives lost, maimed, and agony for the civilians and

  troops alike. The war has been painted as justified, for biological agents and bombs, when other countries such as

  North Korea and the US and Russia clearly have these, are developing them, and the US is being the war monger.

  Then there is the issue of oil, where the Bush family and Cheney have earned their money in the past. Who would

  control the Iraq oil, and the Saudi oil which will be conquered next?

  Are we to suppose that oil prices will drop, when California was punished by Enron, going into the election where

  Bush supposedly took office, for being Democratic? California had blackouts, because the Enron electricity was hiked

  to punish them. Europe would be next. And where is the alternative energy funding in the new war-mongering budget

  forwarded by the Bush Administration? Nonexistent, in essence, cut back, a warning to any who think our words are

  hollow. Indeed, the agony of the injury to the innocent, the certainty of continuing world domination attempts by the

  US, and the deaf ear the US administration is currently turning to starvation worldwide, economic devastation in the

  US and worldwide, has all populations alarmed. Thus, these protests are not engineered, manufactured, but are

  spontaneous from many sources, all with various worry points.

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  ZetaTalk: Depression

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  ZetaTalk: Depression

  Note: written during the Mar 8, 2003 IRC Session

  Those closely watching the current events, in particular the faces of those associated with the Bush Administration,

  have noted depression, lack of humor, and resignation. What is going on, behind closed doors, that the war with Iraq is

  the dominant theme despite all other screamingly important issues such as the economy and N. Korea and the weather

  extremes. There are those that suspect that the Iraq issue is only a distraction from the economy, as a country at war

  almost invariably firms up behind the leader, at least temporarily. Others suspect that Bush is using the war with Iraq to

  get control of the oil fields, the better to become billionaires in later days, rather than mere millionaires. And there are

  those that suspect the war with Iraq is merely being used as a distraction for the failure to capture Bin Laden. And yet

  others suspect that Bush is running a religious crusade, or perhaps a personal vendetta against Saddam as he targeted

  the daddy Bush at one point in the past. None of these are the true issues on why the intensity and grimness prevail,

  and what the real worries are.

  We have mentioned that the Bush crowd, who are not run by George W. by any means but by strong hands behind the

  scenes not known to the public, intends to be kings in the Aftertime, after the coming earth changes have passed, by

  controlling the oil fields with the powerful US Military, and invading whatever country remains resistant with this

  military arm, which is spread all over the globe at present. They underestimate the coming pole shift, which will negate

  their plans utterly, but they listen not to us, the Service-to-Others Zetas, but to others who are misleading them. The

  current George W. Bush is, as we have stated, is a weak person, mentored by his father for this reason, and chosen by

  the strong arms behind the current President for this reason - he can be manipulated. However, as the President, he

  issues orders, and thus regardless of their illogic, he is rigid when his commanders are rigid, and the confusion is

  passed down the line.

  Thus you see an increasingly depressed Powell, addressing the UN with increasingly irrelevant statements on why a

  war is necessary at this time. Thus you see the Stock Market, around the world, plunging and oil prices sky rocketing,

  with a deaf ear turned to the Republican contributors the Bush campaign. Thus you see Bush coming forth with great

  timidity for a press conference, scared, with a controlled agenda during the conference where few were allowed to

  pose their questions to him. They are caught, these puppets, these underlings, with only Bush himself truly getting the

  overview of what is to be done, the underlings given only orders, no explanation. None of them are happy, but as with

  the Space Program, they will push forward until disaster after disaster occurs, increasingly resigning, increasingly

  voicing contradictory statements, and increasingly looking depressed and distressed. The only way to understand this

  crowd is to see the iron grip on the current President, chosen for his weakness, shoved into office by voter fraud

  arranged by packing the Supreme Court in prior years. Any other logic fails.

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  ZetaTalk: Congressional Approval

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  ZetaTalk: Congressional Approval

  Note: written during the October 12, 2002 IRC Session

  Over the past few months, the public was presented with a changing picture re the Bush Administrations determination

  to attach Iraq. In mid-summer, there were a series of heavy-weights, including senior Republicans, who went public to

  say they did not advise war with Iraq. This included Snowcroft, an adviser to Reagan, James Baker, a Reagan Chief of

  Staff, and Schwarzkopf, the general in charge of the Gulf War. Bush stood alone, and until Blair went on record with

  his support, stood alone in the world, also. Then came the Bush UN speech, on September 12, wherein he placed the

  need to attack Iraq on Iraq's failure to abide by inspections, solely. When Iraq, to the surprise of the Bush

  Administration, changed its stance, Bush changed his reasons for his planned attack to be the supposition of weapons

  being developed in Iraq. Is this not in actuality being done in North Korea, India, and Pakistan? The logic is not there,

  but the intent of the Bush Administration is clear. Then came a few weeks of politicizing the issue, with any Democrat

  not supporting Bush claimed to be a virtual terrorist hugger. Polls showed that the American public is more concerned

  about the economy, by a 2-to-1 margin, but still the rhetoric by Bush et all proceeded. Was the capitulation by

  Democrats, in the House and in the Senate, giving into the Bush Administration on this issue? Several factors, both

  apparent to the pubic and behind the scenes, are at play here:

  1. The mid-summer warnings by senior Republicans and experienced generals and world leaders against a war

  with Iraq were to level the playing field in the public's eye. They were hearing Bush, from his bully pulpit, and

  not what was being said behind closed doors, so this campaign was to allow the public to hear all sides being

  expressed.

  2. When despite the clear announcements of a lack of support, Bush pressed forward with his UN speech, the

  behind the scenes plans changed from public opposition to dead-serious work behind the scenes. A virtual

  silence in the opposition occurred, astonishing when the parade of senior Republicans et al were so recently

  coming forth.

  3. Bush politicized his plans, such that Democrats in opposition were supposed to lose elections coming up, or so

  he hoped. In fact, the public, as recent polls have shown, is more worried about the economy because of his

  saber rattling, and the Democrats are leading.

  4. The opposition, behind the scenes, arranged several embarrassments for Bush et al, including reports on the

  accounting of Harken Energy, aligning this with Eron, point by point. Also planned were documentation

  showing that the US itself conducted Germ Warfare experiments, nerve gas and biological agents, and tested this

  on US soil. The public was exposed, but not informed, and Bush left with his own shoe in his own mouth re this.

  5. The Bush Administration, arrogantly assuming the election was keying off the Iraq issue and refusing to address

  economic issue until the Congress had rubber stamped his plans, finally looked up and noticed the public was

  not playing along as expected. Thus, worried, they compromised on what the Congress was willing to approve.

  Now, what is to be expected, from all of this? War with Iraq? A White House cowboy going forth like a shot once

  approved by the Senate? It should be remembered that the White House has it within their power to attack Iraq, giving

  excuses later, only after weeks have passed. They could generate evidence, and have been desperately trying to do this

  for months, so why not just proceed? What has been presented to the White House is a worse-case, best-case scenario,

  not re Iraq, but to their power-mad clawing for world domination. They have been warned by Russia, with small pox

  threats, by the US Military with exposure of former secrets, and by powerful Republicans with a united front, should

  they, the cowboys, persist. Persisting, they were warned again and finally presented with a few horrors on the plate,

  passing under their noses. However, what the public is aware of, in counter-Bush tactics, is hardly the full gamut. The

  US Military arranged, via the veterans network, to bring forth evidence of prior nerve gas and biological agent

  experiments by the US. Harken Energy, exposed in their accounting to be just like another Bush corporation, Enron, at

  a time when the public is in horror of lost value in their 401K accounts. This is the tip of the iceberg, not the full

  gamut, and more will follow if and when Bush, the cowboy, starts strutting his stuff. Thus, you saw a solemn Bush in

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  ZetaTalk: Congressional Approval

  front of the White House, surrounded by a bipartisan Congress, announcing an agreement.

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  ZetaTalk: Firm Determination

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  ZetaTalk: Firm Determination

  Note: written during the Feb 1, 2003 IRC Session

  We have stated, when asked about Iraq war mongering by the Bush Administration, that several factors would stand in

  the way of such an invasion. These included the Fall mid-term elections, but these elections failed to install a

  Democratic House and Senate, due to the Bush Administration using the technique of calling even maimed veterans

  terrorist huggers if they did not rubber stamp his plans. This technique, which was in the hands of man, worked, as a

  house threatened holds to the leader, a well know human trait. We also at that time, some months ago, cited

  deteriorating economic news, which is beginning to be used as a force against invasion. The man on the street knows

  that a war can go badly against the economy, which is already putting many out of their homes and jobs. At this point,

  what is to be expected? We anticipate, given the deaf ear that the Bush Administration presents to all arguments

  against an invasion, that they will proceed. This does not mean success. There are several factors converging at this

  time, that complicate their smug plans.

  1. Earth changes such as quake ravaged cities or floods and increasing illness will present the need for troops at

  home, or unable to function. This has already presented problems in that the deployment schedule is behind, both

  for the US and UK.

  2. International pressure, from former allies as well as Muslim nations. This today shows up as Russia and France

  and Germany stating they will not approve, but the US saying they will go it alone. This today shows up as

  North Korea not simply rattling sabers, but compiling nukes in front of cameras! There are the unplayed cards,

  the wild cards, that the public is not seeing. There are the repeated warnings by other countries of what they will

  do if the US acts as the cowboy they assume can ride any horse. The public will see the result of this pressure

  not as a press release but as a sudden change in plans, most likely announced as a change in schedule, allowing

  the inspectors more time or the like. What really happened will not be divulged.

  3. Pressure by Republicans, those who are thinking of the future, those who consider that a scenario such as a pole

  shift will not happen, and see the party being utterly ruined for decades by what the Bush Administration is

  doing. This would result in what is called moderate Republi
cans siding with Democrats, and causing problems

  for Bush in his Congress. Calls for the impeachment of Bush have already started, in the streets, during rallies,

  and this will continue. All this tends to slow down the process, as the assumption is that a bit more time will

  allow manipulation, threats, perhaps an assassination of an adversary. Thus, as these blocks compound, the

  invasion of Iraq may be just at hand, but never happen!

  4. Intervention, such as recently happened with the shuttle, such that accidents utterly unseen and not due to human

  failure happen to the invaders. These are matter in humans hands or not firmly decided as yet, so speculation is

  rampant. What we are saying is that the outcome is uncertain, so we cannot predict with certainly.

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  ZetaTalk: Not Succeed

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  ZetaTalk: Not Succeed

  Note: written during the Mar 22, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session

  There will be no terrorist attacks, nor will the war progress to the point where a regime change occurs. Matters are

  escalating, quakes and weather and illness all ganging up on the war mongers, though this is not coming forth in the

  news. How would it be that a base in California was afflicted a month ago, and again in the SE, but no illness is

  affecting troops crowded into Kuwait? Likewise the heat has come sooner than expected, the dust storms more violent

  and continuing. What we are saying is that the US public is being told a quick war will result in success, but the utter

  opposite will be the case. Mechanical failure, human error compounding human error, and accidents that will silence

  the cry for support for war utterly.

  Note: below written during the Mar 29, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

  We mentioned a week ago when the Iraq invasion started that mechanical difficulties and weather problems would be

  the first thrust to foil the power and oil grab of those who would dominate the Earth in the Aftertime. This was already

  in process, mechanical problems, but continued with choppers running into each other, crashing, and cruise missiles