ZetaTalk: Science

by Nancy Lieder

  ZetaTalk: Bait and Switch

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  ZetaTalk: Bait and Switch

  written June 9, 2004

  How could Venus appear to be where expected when the Sun arc is so high, the Moon late, the Ecliptic

  offset by several degrees, and Polaris no longer in position as the North Star?

  Nancy

  We have stated that Venus did not transit, and it did not. For the government to have confidence that they could

  proceed with this trumpeted announcement requires that they be lulled to the point where the world would be looking.

  Thus, they saw Venus dropping on the horizon, moving into position, to their amazement, a gift, an unexpected

  surprise. Had it not moved into position as it did, they would have proceeding anyway, allowing all photographers and

  viewers to assume they had been faulty. SOHO was prepared ahead of time with doctored images, not a difficult feat for them as the backdrop is predictable, and current Sun flares on C2 and C3 an image simplicity no more difficult than

  creating a spray of light from a hidden source. Thus, when Venus appeared to be moving into position, the SOHO

  doctors got Confused as to which set to use in the last minute excitement, and they faltered.

  We would ask the public if the Moon's orbit, wildly out of position at times during the tilting and leaning the Earth does during the sweeps, has been in the news? Does the fact that the news fails to notice mean it did not happen? The

  Second Sun, astonishing those who have seen it, getting no explanation whatsoever. The Sun’s arc high, the entire

  Ecliptic off by several degrees, and GoTo scopes not being able to track as expected, all ignored. The tack the

  establishment takes is to ignore what they cannot explain, to explain with great fanfare what they want the public to

  believe, and rely on the psychology so aptly portrayed in the child’s tale, the Emperor’s New Clothes. Thus, whether

  Venus appeared or not, the establishment would proceed with the script, doctored photos long in hand, doctored SOHO

  lined up at the gate. Did Venus transit? What does the word ‘transit’ mean? It means a concluded and completed

  passage, in one side, entirely out the other, and nothing half way about it.

  Venus went half way, and is not proceeding past the Sun on its orbit. How do we know? We and others pushed it

  there, into position despite its reluctance, and properly so as to be viewed from Earth. But why? Because we wanted

  the public to see it, wanted the observation of other anomalies around the Sun to become the buzz of amateurs. Like the

  Moon off orbit, and the Second Sun dramatically confusing those viewing it with the real Sun they see moments later,

  this phenomena will not go away, nor will the attention it gains diminish because the establishment ignores it. The tail

  of Planet X, the moon swirls, the increasing fireballs streaking through the atmosphere, all are here to stay while the

  situation only worsens. Those with scopes and solar filters, seeing what puzzled them on June 8, will go back for

  another peek. How could there be those objects around the Sun, getting no mention from NASA? The SOHO images

  are light frequency screened so not all comes through, but amateur equipment sees the larger picture. One more nail in

  the coffin wherein the credibility of NASA will be buried.

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  ZetaTalk: Bait and Switch

  Uh, what am I looking at? Clouds that move back and forth?

  The speck at the top has maintained its distance from venus, and is going clockwise around it...is that

  Venus´ moon? Does Venus even have a moon? Thatś cool.

  There are three anomalous objects in this one.

  One at 11 o clock

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  One at 2 o clock

  One at 7 o clock

  Itś northeast of the sun now, I´d say 3 o’clock. Small round object with an aura it looks like. It looks

  really odd, anyone have an idea on what it is?

  I see two objects and they are moving!

  There are about six of those things positioned all around the Sun.

  I save the pictures, and then changed them to reflect like a negative, and there is indeed something there

  (the one at the 7 o’clock position is very odd shaped, reminds me of the asteroid that one of the news sites

  had pictured), and it does seem to have moved.

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  ZetaTalk: Venus and Mars

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  ZetaTalk: Venus and Mars

  written Feb 27, 2004

  Whether the Earth has halted or reversed in her orbit is difficult to determine. There is strong evidence of Rising Up or

  Down in the Ecliptic, as many note the sun too high or low in the sky. Tilts are also easily determined, due to a different arch in the sky painted by the Sun, different rising and setting points for the Sun, and weather and Cold

  Patterns. Sweeping arms push the Earth forward, so a reversed orbit is not in pace with the normal forward movement.

  Thus a reverse orbit is a stalled orbit, in essence. Where the clocks would place the point where man could look out

  into the midnight sky too close to dawn for a February 2004 clock on a globe in a November-December 2003 position,

  the ever increasing slowing of rotation counters and confuses this. Thus, the constellations would look, if not precise,

  at least similar to what man expects from his February skies.

  Drop the Earth in her Ecliptic so the northern hemisphere gets more sun and warmth, confusing the trend with Spring.

  Calculate the Earth more in a December posture, with a dropped Ecliptic increasing the day length masking the

  differences between Almanacs and any time published by the Navy. Pull the Earth in toward the Sun, a Warning and

  prediction given by both an ancient astronomy chart and a recent crop circle, and as evidenced by the blazing sun and

  early spring on a northern hemisphere too long above the sun in a raised ecliptic, and therefore very cold. This also

  increases the repulsion force issues for both Earth and Venus. Thus, the weather and length of day would look, if not

  precise, at least similar to what man expects from a February date.

  Venus

  Venus, directly in the path where Planet X is moving between the Earth and

  Sun, is also affected by its approach. And why would it not, as both Earth and

  Venus were approaching Planet X on Dec 25 as it rose in front of them, just in

  from Orion and finally reaching the inner solar system. Venus is as large as

  Earth, and more directly in the path of Planet X, though its size will keep it

  from a collision as it is large enough to invoke the Repulsion Force. This same

  Repulsion Force is retarding Venus in its orbit now. Conjunctions of a crescent

  Moon and Venus are frequently and popular, the last on Feb 23, 2004 preceded

  by one on Dec 25, 2003 and before that, Nov 25, 2003, with slight

  displacement of the arrangement between these heavenly bodies. Thus, when

  viewers saw the conjunction on Feb 23, 2004 approximately where they

  anticipated, this was taken to be an affirmation that the Earth’s orbit was

  normal. But as the photos from Feb 23, 2004 confirm, the lineup was not as anticipated.

  Mars

  Mars lies outside of the fast lane, the traffic lanes where confrontations are occurring, unlike Earth and Venus

  who cannot escape the approach of Planet X, as it is blocking their path. They are held to their obits
by the

  gravity pull of the Sun, swept into their orbits by the Sweeping Arms of the Sun, and prevented from lifting or

  dropping too much in their Orbital Planes by the ever present particle flows returning to the Sun’s middle from where they emitted at the Sun’s poles, the reason for all the planets lining up in the Sun’s Ecliptic in the first

  place like the rings around Saturn. Mars escapes. Thus, during the anticipated conjunction on Feb 25, 2004 of the

  crescent Moon and Mars, Mars was not present! When viewed from a stalled Earth, Mars is making an

  appearance too late for the conjunction, and thus, no photos from around the world for this publicized event.

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  ZetaTalk: Venus, Playing Chicken

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  ZetaTalk: Venus, Playing Chicken

  written Mar 4, 2004

  What is the planetary/star object at the 6 o’clock position to the Sun in the March 3, 2004 SOHO LASCO

  C3 Latest Image? This object has been revolving clockwise around the sun for several days now.

  As we explained just days ago, where Earth halted in her orbit, stalled and even reversed on Dec 25, 2003, Venus did

  not arrive at that point until recently. Where the Earth is brushing back and forth in her stalled position, pushed

  forward counterclockwise in her normal orbit pattern by the Sweeping Arms of the Sun but likewise pushed back from

  the approaching Planet X by the Repulsion Force that planetary sized object generate against each other due to gravity

  particle bursts from their dense cores, Venus has a different kind of emergency. In Western cultures, there is a term

  called playing chicken, where reckless teens head toward each other in cars, on a single lane, daring the other to pull to

  the side first, a test of courage. As Planet X will be passing between the Earth and Sun, and this is where Venus lies, in her orbit, these two planets are in essence playing chicken. Venus does not have the magnetic nature that Earth does,

  thus does not get caught in the grip that the Earth is trapped in with Planet X. Venus can escape! But not by going to

  the side, as on one side is the Earth, the other the Sun, and Repulsion Force issues all around. But not having a

  magnetic grip to deal with, Venus can go backwards, rapidly, and it does.

  For those who say that the Earth did not halt on Dec 25, 2003, we would point to the expected position of Earth and

  Venus at this date. Shorly after Feb 25, 2004 Venus is expected to be far from transiting in front of the Sun, as it was

  claimed to be in proper position just recently by NASA for a Feb 23 conjunction. But most telling, both Earth and Venus are normally going round the Sun in a counterclockwise motion, as are all the planets in the solar system. What

  do these SOHO images present? A clockwise orbit of Venus, without a doubt! For those who would argue that

  somehow this is correct, and that Earth and Venus are in their normal obits, we point to the expected position of Earth

  and Venus. Both moving counterclockwise, Venus not expected to transit in front of the Sun until June, 2004. Venus

  likewise moves faster than the Earth in her orbit, and would for a normal position be seen moving counterclockwise in

  a transit. But look how the SOHO evidence stands up in our argument, that the Earth has halted and it moving back

  and forth more or less in a December posture. Venus arrives to play chicken with Planet X, in her orbital path, in late

  February, 2004. Where the Earth is caught in an unshakable magnetic grip, and is tilting her N Pole toward the S Pole of Planet X at this time, Venus is not so trapped by magnetism. She halts, puts her gears into reverse, and guns it!

  Going clockwise, as the SOHO images show, past Earth in an unexpected transit of Venus in front of the Sun!

  Nancy's Note: see new ZetaTalk: Jerking Nancy Around following re the retorical questions posed above.

  This is indeed Mercury in these images, the question being if these are current images or from the NASA

  archives.

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  ZetaTalk: Magma Voids

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  ZetaTalk: Magma Voids

  written Feb 18, 2005

  This is a little fountain. Water on the base is pumped to the top where a crystal sphere rotates all day. When I bought it in January 2005 its rotation was clockwise or like the planets from East to West. Now at the beginning of February it stopped

  this direction and it rotates counter-clockwise North to South.

  We explained early in the ZetaTalk years that Spin is caused by objects on the surface affected by magma under the surface, and recently that Magma Slam is due to the polar wobble and the Earth's simultaneous desire to rotate in the old direction while being tipped to its side so rotation is forced into a new direction. Thus there are magma surges that collide and have voids under the surface. Why would Edgar Cayce, in his famous Earth changes prediction, have warned 'the sinking or rising in the Mediterranean' would follow 'the first breaking up of some conditions in the South Seas'? We have explained the relationship between those parts of the globe

  experiencing Weather Wobbles and the Magma Slam on the opposite side of the globe, pointing out the relationship between the sudden wind storms from the South in Europe to the Sumatra quake and tsunami. Those speaking through Cayce, a true channel, knew this

  relationship would exist, and would become apparent as the tipping of the globe into the 3 Days of Darkness began. What is this relationship, specifically?

  As the globe tips over on its side, slowly, there are dual flows, one flow going round under the Earth's middle as had been the

  normal rotation flow, and the other continuing to pull toward the Sun, following the Sun's rotation, the normal impetus for

  rotation. These two streams are composed of different magma elements, depending upon how attracted they are to elements in the

  Sun. Those less attracted to Sun elements follows the Earth's rotation, regardless of how it might be tipped. These dual magma

  streams overlap at certain points, creating the double whammy, but likewise have voids at points, as each stream expects magma

  to backfill its motion. Voids, then, can be created by the double whammy, as those points where these dual magma streams are

  pulling from can create a double void.

  Human scientists already know that the core of the Earth moves faster than the crust, rotates faster. The core pulls with the Sun, dragging the magma along with it, the crust of the Earth dragged along with the magma, and the atmosphere and oceans of the

  Earth dragged along with the crust. Sudden and violent wind storms from the South, accompanying the Polar Wobble, indicate the Earth jerked to the South at that point, the crust moving under the atmosphere and thus the winds, the magma pulling the crust

  under that point and thus at that point a magma void. Thus, the Mediterranean region, which has experienced these sudden wind storms from the South, has a predictable magma void.

  Since the crust suddenly moved south, it has a depressing effect on the magma it is pulled over. Magma under the crust in the polar regions is moving slowly, sluggish, and at the Equator moving and swirling more rapidly. If the crust is suddenly pulled

  South during the wobble, it pulls along with it any magma caught in its rough edges. This sluggish magma flow, suddenly pulled

  atop more rapidly moving magma, creates a crowding relieved by a circular motion from the sluggish magma near the crust

  toward the faster moving magma n
ear the interior. This difference is more dramatic toward the Equator, thus this flow to relieve

  the crowding moves North to South, as noted in this Mediterranean fountain, and from crust to interior, in a counterclockwise

  motion.That this fountain motion developed only recently indicates an increased wobble, all of which will translate into volcanic and atmospheric changes.

  Volcanic activity, increased eruptions in already active volcanoes, have been recently noted in the Kamchatka Peninsula. We have

  mentioned the sudden wind storms in Japan as being linked to anticipated Magma Slams against the spine of the Andes, and thus Japan is an area where a magma void could be anticipated. If these magma voids are causing vertical magma flows that clash with the normal horizontal magma flows, increased activity, would this not roil the magma up into volcanic outlets more aggressively?

  Spin on the surface of the Earth reflects what is occurring in the core of the Earth. Spin moves in different directions when it is above or below the equator. One of the outer edges, the one on the pole side, is lined up over core parts that are

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  ZetaTalk: Magma Voids

  moving slower than the other outer edge, the one on the equator side.

  ZetaTalk: Spin, written Jan 15, 1997

  The Earth's crust is in an equilibrium with the normal magma surges driving the rotation. Now things have changed, and

  this change will accelerate. Europe has experienced those, winds from the South, and on the other side of the globe from

  there a double whammy point, Tasmania. The US has experienced these vertical sudden windstorms, and on the other side

  of the globe lies the African Rift. Japan has been assaulted by sudden winds from the South in Tokyo, and on the other side

  of the globe lies the spine of the Andes in South America.

  ZetaTalk: Magma Slam, written Dec 28, 2004

  Where the Earth is pulled, the atmosphere is not, and lingers where it was while the crust moves beneath it. Accounts of

  sudden wind storms, unexpected and