ZetaTalk: Pole Shift

by Nancy Lieder

  this, laid out before us, and we watch each day as the comet approaches and calculate any variance from our last plot.

  Therefore this is not something uncertain that we have to morph up out of calculations and call “the best estimate” or

  “our speculation.” This is not speculation, this is observation, and we are telling you what we are observing.

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  ZetaTalk: Late 2003

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  ZetaTalk: Late 2003

  Note: written during the May 3, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

  We have mentioned that the White House, out of contact with ourselves since they stole the election from the

  American People and MJ12 committed suicide to prevent itself from being misused, does not believe entirely that the

  passage will happen as we have stated in ZetaTalk. They prefer to listen, as they did in the past, to those aliens in the

  Service-to-Self, who contacted them first prior to Roswell, and who spoke the language of those highly Service-to-Self

  in the CIA and military ranks in those days. Thus, they were led astray in great measure by being told they could go

  underground, and burrowed into Houston which will be flooded, and Mt. Weather and other such locations which will

  become tombs in the main, from those who bought the message from these Service-to-Self aliens. Solutions such as

  going to Mars for a colony, or a colony on the Earth's dark twin, have fallen to the side. Thus, the Bush Administration

  and the puppet masters behind the scenes are left with considering life on Earth, with the masses they chose to leave to

  their lot in the past.

  However, in spite of setbacks on all these escape routes, leaving the planet or going underground, they still prefer to

  listen to the Service-to-Self aliens speaking to them through contactees in their midst, than ourselves. The reason?

  They message delivered is in terms they understand! We speak of the importance of informing the masses, so they can

  make their peace with death or save their young, going to safety and preparing for life afterwards. They prefer to hear

  about how a small elite can dupe the masses, rip them off of their tax dollars, and emerge afterwards as kings to rule

  those who managed to survive! Thus, they in effect tune us out, as our message is tiresome to those in the Bush

  Administration driving the bus. The prefer to linger over the other message, which then is the only one heard.

  So, does this other message have a different time frame than ours? Absolutely! They are being told a date out from

  ours, extended in time, more time for preparation for themselves. This is to some extent why some false messengers,

  who tried and are still trying to steal the stage from ZetaTalk, are pointing to some months out! They have no basis for

  this claim, but make it anyway. Human astrophysics also asserts that a body cannot careen into the solar system from

  the distance Planet X moved in as short a time. Those in NASA know it did approach that rapidly, but they are

  reluctant to admit ourselves being right, and their other sources being wrong.

  Thus, one by one, their prized theories are discredited, but they reluctantly let go, and thus are slow to embrace the

  obvious next step! If it did move into the solar system that rapidly, might we not be right? But no, they are still

  asserting that a later date is correct, clinging to the preferred messengers, discarding our message. Thus, the Bush

  Administration is strutting about re Iraq, and planning their next moves, and even talking about the 2004 election

  season! They look at the Earth changes, and see nothing that indicates an immediate pole shift! The fact that history,

  and folk lore, speak to a sudden shift, only a bad week with scarcely anything ahead of time in distinct or massive

  warning bells, is lost on them in their arrogance that they and their sources must be correct. In effect, this is perfect

  Karma, this crowd being caught unaware as they expect to put mankind in general in this position.

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  ZetaTalk: Straight Talk

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  ZetaTalk: Straight Talk

  Note: written prior to July 15, 1995

  Regarding why other of our brethren are not warning of the year 2003 [Note: see 2003 Date explanation]. They are, but most of mankind would prefer not to hear. We are more blunt speaking than some. Gentle words speaking of tragedy can be

  misunderstood, as the warning is clothed in so many reassurances the warning cannot be differentiated. Fault also lies

  with the listeners, who torque the message so they can live with it. We are telling it straight. There are others, doing

  likewise, if one looks for them.

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  Pole Shift Date

  Pole Shift in 2003 Date

  As has been explained previously, all ZetaTalk information keyed to the May 15 date was part of the White

  Lie. This included the 7.3 weeks of naked eye visibility leading up to that date, so that when naked eye

  viewing of a red light fading in and out at our coordinates became visible in very late March, this brought

  weight to the May 15 date. All was designed to fool the establishment. We avoided, scrupulously, any

  efforts during the Spring of 2003 to pin us down to distance, allowing humans to speculate on the distance

  from Earth instead. We also refused to address the exact speed of Planet X, preferring to talk in general

  terms, stating it was a rapid approach to the outer edges of the solar system, and much slower when

  approaching the Sun due to the Repulsion Force effect. Nancy has pointed out several clues that May 15

  was not and could not have been the date, in that we have stated in ZetaTalk that Planet X would dive 32°

  below the Ecliptic prior to passage and at May 15, 2003 our coordinates had only dropped to 7° below the

  Ecliptic. We also stated firmly in Nov, 2001, that no date would be given as it would allow the

  establishment to mistreat the populace.

  ZetaTalk: Why May 15?

  Since the inception of ZetaTalk, the passage with rotation stoppage and pole shift has been described as occurring

  " shortly after May 15, 2003". The Zetas declined to be more specific, citing in Nov, 2001 that the elite and those in power would use such knowledge to their advantage, and to the disadvantage of the common man. They also cited a

  preference for a later, rather than earlier, date, as waiting in a safe location for the date to arrive is preferable to finding

  time too short to make the move.

  We have withheld the exact hour of passage from our ZetaTalk for several reasons:

  1. The establishment and those groups who would take advantage of good hearted folk would use this

  knowledge to better entrap and enslave and ensure their own survival at the expense of the good

  hearted.

  2. The timing of this can change slightly due to matters in the solar system, such that a mis-calculation

  could see us, in horror, watching good hearted folks trying to save those dependent upon them too

  late, by days or hours, a matter we would prefer to avoid for a later announcement, more precise.

  3. Earth changes, and the exact position of the Earth in relationship to the passing planet, will change

  slightly as the time approaches, so warnings for this or that part of the world may change at the last

  minute,
or last week in any case. Best to leave this for then, so no misunderstandings can occur.

  ZetaTalk: Hour of the Shift

  Shortly before May 15, 2003:

  Operation TOPOFF was initiated to involve Seattle, Chicago, and Washington DC and over 100

  agencies, including Canadian participation.

  Other terroism exercises followed, including Winter Sun in NYC and environs.

  Operation Planet X was run on May 15 in Iraq.

  On the Lou Gentile live radio show May 16, 2003, the Zetas gave a specific date of May 27, 2003, and

  reasons for being specific at this time. Details such as the day a late sunset could be expected, rotation

  stoppage expected, and the exact number of days, in decimals, until the hour of the shift:

  As explained on Gentile last evening, but repeated here as many will not be able to hear this

  streaming audio, we have given the dates out because the US and Indonesian governments

  can no longer succeed with their plans. We had held the date close, to put these governments

  in the same position the common man they planned to murder are in, so that rotation

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  Pole Shift Date

  stoppage would happen suddenly and prevent a smooth blockading of the city dwellers. As

  Nancy has been able to be interviewed in the US, the message of these plans replayed around

  the world, cooperation by the military or locale police in such blockades are unlikely to

  happen. Given such orders, they would object, refuse, allow escape, as they know the true

  agenda. Thus, the number of people injured by withholding the date outnumbered the number

  that would be murdered, the balance scale tipped.

  ZetaTalk: Dates, Why Now?

  Note: relayed during the May 16 Lou Genitle show, and addressed during the May 17 IRC as well.

  The week following May 16, 2003:

  Indonesia declared Martial Law

  Terrorism exercises were scheduled for the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco.

  Homeland Security went to level Orange, with no other excuse than recent attacks in other

  countries, though these attacks were not unusual. Level Red, wherein citizens can be ordered to

  remain in their homes, was the next step.

  Global quakes (shuttering where the whole globe participates) were occurring almost daily, per the

  live seismograph sites, an extreme increase from when they had first been noted in March, 2003.

  Did the actions of the US Government indicate that US citizens were not going to be blocks from leaving

  coastal cities, so as to reduce the numbers of citizens demanding food and shelter from the White House,

  an act of murder by the US Government against their citizens? No! The opposite occurred, and the Zetas

  explain why the White Lie, and why specific dates should not be anticipated.

  Following these two examples of dates given (May 15 and May 20), and the establishment taking steps in each

  instance contrary to the welfare of the common man, likewise continuing to disinform and uninform the public, the

  Zetas are advising that Earth changes be used as a guide for when to take steps, and explain why the date, and the date alone, was a deliberately confused issue.

  Going into the predicted 2003 date, there were many opportunists attempting to get on the band wagon.

  A review of 2003 shows that whereas the Passage did not happen in 2003, Planet X certainly arrived in 2003!

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  ZetaTalk: Earth Changes

  ZetaTalk: Earth Changes

  written May 30, 2003

  It should be noted that the body of ZetaTalk, collected over the years and representing great consistency and accuracy,

  is valid, with the exception of the date of passage. We have explained in our recent White Lie write-up that this was done to foil those who would Entrap and Enslave the common man to their advantage. There is great consternation and

  confusion in the halls of power, where those who would kill hundreds of millions of what they consider undesirable

  worker, reside. How can they trap people in their homes, in their cities, by rouse or by blowing up bridges or releasing

  poisonous chemicals if they cannot learn the exact date! Thus they show their claws, as the Bush Administration did

  when they moved to level Orange within days of May 16 when we gave the White Lie, false dates specifying May 20

  as rotation slowdown and May 27 as the passage date.

  Date related material within ZetaTalk, such as visibility by the unaided eye 7.3 weeks before passage, or 7 weeks as it

  is sometimes stated, was valid to the target date of shortly after May 15, 2003. This date of May 15, 2003 was used as

  a target, easily remembered, and given by us as by this date Earth changes would be in such a state, and visibility of

  the inbound glowing monster about to devastate Earth so widely acknowledged, that ZetaTalk as a body would not be

  discounted. Most of mankind, not learning by any route that a pole shift is upon them, will use Earth changes as a

  guide, and most will not even notice the Glowing Red second sun visible throughout the day when the red light bends

  to the viewer and viewing conditions are optimal. On this date, May 30, 2003 the Earth is poised to experience great

  quakes and stretching of rifts, so that discussions of the exact date of rotation stoppage or the shift will be replaced by

  frantic efforts to deal with one disaster after another.

  This is the signal that mankind will use for certainty when wondering when and if to move to their safe locations, and

  risk losing what operating in their heretofore normal life in the mainstream of human society provided to them. Should

  they leave the house, the job, risk angering the employer, create a rift in a marriage, ruin the credit rating, disrupt

  school plans, sever ties with friends who already think them berserk, or remain plodding in what is considered their

  normal life? Dropping bridges and buildings, breaking dams, derailing trains, satellites and magnetic guides useless to

  planes and ships which will go awry, shuttering quakes along fault lines, erratic tides, suddenly spawned hurricanes

  and tornadoes, and rivers awash with debris overflowing their banks and creating crisis in lowlands where travel will

  be impossible for those trying to escape. The exact date of passage will be replaced, thus, by the immediacy of dealing

  with crisis, and those who would entrap and enslave mankind suddenly finding their plans ignored by those they

  expected would follow orders like drones.

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  ZetaTalk: Decision Time

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  ZetaTalk: Decision Time

  written Nov 15, 2003

  Despite our warning in Nov, 2001 that no date would be given, and our endless explanations of the evil that would be done to the majority of the peoples of the Earth should the elite of the world know, with any certainty, the date of

  rotation slowing or stoppage, we and our emissary Nancy are asked endlessly this question. It is certainly

  understandable. People hold jobs, need to travel in their work, have children at a distance in school, would be either

  paying bills or buying rice and beans with a paycheck. Those who have considered the Earth changes increasingly

  evident and have come to the conclusion that there is an interloper in the solar system, and it does have the Earth in a

  grip, are in agony. Timing is everything, if not an absolute date, then a general time frame. Please.

  We stated some time ago that by the time rotation stoppage occurred
the establishment would not be thinking about

  martial law, as they would be too busy with disasters. Thus, it is not rotation slowing to a stop that will be the signal

  that the time has come to move to your safe locations, it will be well before that. In what manner will this occur?

  Families in cities will find life there unlivable, at some point, as power outages, water and gas main breaks,

  heaving roads, fractured and dropping buildings, employers moving elsewhere, and schools unattended by

  teachers or children remove the reasons for remaining. Paying the mortgage? The insurance company is already

  refusing to ensure, the paycheck no longer coming, and moving to the farm with Uncle Joe looking increasingly

  inviting.

  Those employed doing the bidding of an employer, on the road, regular attendance, will find one day that the

  employer has asked the employee to go into danger, hop a plane when they are falling from the sky like stones,

  drive long distances when roads are fast becoming impassable, or sitting in offices or factories considered death

  traps. One reconsiders one's commitments, and quits. Camping in the safe location scouted out the year before

  looks like a better option than being treated like corporate fodder.

  Those near volcanoes that erupt will be removed, told to move, and will have the choice of hovering around the

  area to return or moving elsewhere. As all volcanoes will be restless, all coastlines heaving up or dropping, all

  roadways finding broken bridges or buckling pavement a sure clue of an uneasy substructure, the choice will be

  dictated by safe location logic for all but those too stubborn to think. Stay at the local school until the danger is

  deemed past, or move to the farm with Uncle Joe? If not during the first emergency, perhaps the next, but the

  time to move to safety will be clear.

  Nancy has noted in a crop circle analysis that Sweeping Arms of the Sun seem to come round every 6.5 weeks, and

  looking back has seen evidence of the last 3 sweeps previous to Nov 14. Indeed, this past week has seen evidence of

  another sweep pushing Planet X and the Earth closer together, their magnetic fields engaged as evidenced by the